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1. jim Says:
   May 21st, 2004 at 7:09 pm

   OMG, I think I’ve had that same nurse.

2. david Says:
   June 24th, 2004 at 3:09 pm

   ya i just broke mine skateboarding lol…. on my summer break..i feel ur pain.. im only 14 so maybe itll heal faster?

3. Hans Says:
   June 24th, 2004 at 7:36 pm

   David – I cracked my wrist two summers in a row from skateboarding. I guess it took me two times before I realized I better start riding better!
   Lucky for you, being younger, your bones heal up faster. Keep that shoulder and collar bone from moving around. Use your sling. It should heal up fast.

4. Ed Says:
   July 20th, 2004 at 10:11 am

   Thanks for the heads up! I am presently in week 3 after a nasty spill and can relate to everything said thus far. I am a little nervous about week four though. I hope it goes better than yours began. I’m also glad to know that us old folks shouldn’t expect the x-rays to show healng by then. My appointment next week will include an x-ray, so thanks for letting me know what to expect. I’m most excited about week five and thanks to your diary, I look forward to it. I like to run more than bike and am hoping I can do a bit of that if I’m feeling like you did by week five. I’m not sure I have the courage to risk falling from a bike quite yet. Besides, after just three days on the stationary bike, I’m already looking forward to doing something different once I get outside. Thanks again.

5. kelsey Says:
   July 30th, 2004 at 9:32 am

   I don’t really have a comment but I do have a question. How long did most people wait to go to work? I had a four wheeler accident on 7/24 and also hurt my hip, i’m still in a lot of pain expecially my clavicle. The problem is I am going nuts just sitting here.

6. Hans Says:
   July 30th, 2004 at 1:38 pm

   kelsey – I’m not a doc and your question is a tough one to answer. It depends on the type of work you do, how bad you are injured, how you feel, etc.. With my busted clavicle I was lucky and not in much pain. So I was able to return to work quickly. In fact, I was on the bike in just over a week.
   The most important thing about recovery is giving your body time to heal. Especially the first week after the break. That’s when the body and bones work hardest to mend.

7. Gavin Minor Says:
   July 31st, 2004 at 2:00 am

   I broke my clavicle in a high speed car crash, also broke my ankle (tibia & fibia), requiring surgery to get a metal plate and screws to put it back together. This makes things twice as difficult as you can’t use crouches to get around – so no walking (or moving) for 7 weeks! It’s now about 10-11 weeks since the accident, and my clavicle hasn’t healed at all, they’re informing me i will need another operation to get a metal plate to put it back together! I am walking (limping) now though, so the end is in site. I will never take the human body for granted again!
   But on the plus side, to anyone reading this with a broken clavicle, maybe you might take some refuge in the fact that a broken ankle/leg is a lot more painful/difficult to deal with than a broken collar bone!! Not breaking anything is even better again! Good luck!

8. Jason Kofke Says:
   August 11th, 2004 at 4:05 pm

   My brother-in-law left his moped at my house one weekend. I figured I’d take it for a spin and impress my girlfriend at how fast I could go. She watched me crash the stupid thing and got me an ambulance. I’m into the 2nd week today. I’m a painter and guitarsit so this injury midas well have crippled me. (But I was back to painting the day after I broke it!) I’ve started playing my guitar today and find that the weight of the guitar and strap pushes the clavical back into place somewhat. I’m 25 and wish I didn’t have this bone sticking out of my neck for the rest of my life (the doctor said it will never go down,) but at least I can look forward to using my arm sooner than I thought. Thanks for posting your story – I can’t wait for week five and six. until then, making music and art will be a painfull experiance…but dosen’t it make it that much better?

9. Laura Erker Says:
   August 13th, 2004 at 12:10 pm

   Thank you to everyone posting their stories. It’s very sad that we all have to break things to appreciate our bodies. But, it can be turned into a positive experience. All of you are very positive. I love it!
   Laura

10. Lee Says:
    August 17th, 2004 at 2:23 am

    Thanks Laura for sharing your story and to everyone for their postings. I broke my clavicle playing football on July 18th. I didn’t know what I had done to my shoulder. I landed hard on my right shoulder, sat up and heard a grinding sound when I tried to move. I too had one of “those” nurses – who after the emergency doctor looked at it and said it was broken; she wanted me to put a gown on to take xrays. Hello – it is broken I cannot move my arm nevertheless get out of my clothes and change. So grateful for painkillers!! Anyway, I was moving my arm a bit by the end of week one and it is coming along. I am in the start of week 5 and doing physio and massage therapy. The last two days I have had sharp, crippling pains in my bicep and forearm; it feels like a spasm or cramp or more like an electric shock that won’t stop! Anyone else experience this? I understand it is part of the process and more nerves releasing etc. I am not too happy about the bump from the overlap of the break but my doctor said it will lessen over years. I hope to get to the gym this week and start gradually back in. Wow to those that started training so early in your recovery. Thanks again for the stories.

11. Hans Says:
    August 17th, 2004 at 11:42 am

    Lee – I don’t recall any spasms during my recovery. Every so often it would feel very sore, almost to the point of a cramp. I would massage it and then it would be fine.
    As for the bump reducing over time, that’s what I’ve been told and have friends whose bumps have reduced. I still haven’t noticed yet with mine, but it wasn’t that extreme of a bump.

12. Anna Says:
    August 31st, 2004 at 8:49 am

    Thanks Laura and Hans for posting all of this — it’s really helpful. I had a cycling accident last Wed (26th) — broken left clavicle.
    So far, seems ok — twinges of pain but nothing major. The clavicle brace really helps and I notice the difference when I take it off.
    Went to the gym on Sunday and used a recombinant trainer — no problem — just a bummer to be indoors during the best days of the year. But, better than going crazy sitting still. Gradually, I’ll move to a regular trainer and I’ll even attempt Hans’ training routine.
    Thanks again — this blog really helped to educate me on the practical stuff — not just the clinical!
    Anna
    p.s. Laura, I’m still a believer in the medicinal benefits of alcohol

13. TERRI DUNN Says:
    September 6th, 2004 at 1:11 am

    My daughter 11 years old was pushed down in P.E. and broke her clavical. She is in her third day. Any recommendations for her pain other than the tylonal w/codeine the er prescribed. and the pillow thing, should I just keep her down and still? PLEASE HELP ME!!

14. Hans Says:
    September 6th, 2004 at 9:50 am

    I’m sorry to hear about your daughter’s broken clavicle.
    I’m not a doctor and can only comment from my own experiences. As for reducing the pain, applying ice for 15 to 20 minutes at a time may help. Apply the ice pack with a towel between it and the body so the extreme cold doesn’t freeze the skin. For medication, acetaminophen or ibuprofen or other over-the-counter pain medicine might help. Finally, keep the shoulder from moving and in a sling as much as possible. I used a figure-eight brace in addition to the sling and found it reduced the strain on my shoulder and helped to keep it immobile.
    Keeping the shoulder from moving is very important. Especially this first week of a break. That’s when the body and bones are working to mend themselves. Movement can disrupt those bonds that are forming and hinder or stop the mending.
    Luckily, your daughter is young and her calvicle should heal rather quickly.
    Good luck.

15. Greg Says:
    September 20th, 2004 at 7:19 pm

    I’m on day two of a broken right clavicle. (Motorcycle accident three hundred miles from home — I’m very lucky…) As mentioned elsewhere in this blog, the bone doesn’t need much help healing except maybe a sling or figure-eight brace and respect for the body enough to permit it to heal, i.e., not to push your poor broken bone with too much activity. (I guess I will buy some calcium too!) But given that you need only “facilitate” your bone’s healing with these simple steps, doesn’t it make sense also to properly medicate? In my opinion, avoiding undue pain is a challenge of recovery in broken clavicles that is at least equal to that of living for a time “in the world of one hand.”
    Ibuprofen worked well for me on the Amtrak train ride back to my home town (600mg about every two hours between 4:30 PM to about 11PM when I finally got home) when I really didn’t have to do any moving around with my arm (plush seats with a good arm rest, direct train to my city). I could alleviate pain solely with ibuprofen under those circumstances and without feeling groggy from using only vicodin — which was important to me — I was, after all, required to manage my transport from the hospital ER by taxi to the train station, and then alone on a train for 4-1/2 hours with two small bags, a heavy coat, and a sling! Grogginess would be really unacceptable in those circumstances, so I felt that ibu alone was the way to go.
    But, at home finally, when it came time to get my sling off to get my t-shirt off, put the sling back on and give my shoulder its first icing, and then figure out what pillow to use for my head and how to lay on my back with the sling back on all night, I necessarily graduated to vicodin along with the ibuprofin. The ibu not only provides its own pain relief in addition to vicodin, but also is an anti-inflammatory, helping to cut down the inflammation that contributes to pain in all those other parts of my body that were horrifically jangled in the accident (but which thankfully weren’t broken). I didn’t need alot of vicodin to get the relief I needed for all this, but it was what I needed to actually get restful sleep. Restful sleep is a **very important** part of the program of avoiding misery with a broken clavicle, in my view!
    But I also didn’t want to go to sleep on vicodin and then wake up hours later with excruciating pain because everything had worn off. You have to stay “ahead of the pain” when you manage a broken clavicle. So I set the alarm clock for four hours later so I could wake up and take another dosing of ibu and vicodin. The point is to stay on a regular regimen of pain reliever (as directed by your doctor, of course), and take the meds promptly **whether you’re feeling too much pain or not.**
    Today I got the figure-8 brace from my doctor, but for now am still using my sling *too*, simply because it is more comfortable for me. I’ll get rid of the sling no sooner than when it is comfortable for me to do so. I’m letting my body heal on its own (by not moving my clavicle so much), but I’m responsible to myself to be sure I’m adequately medicated to get through this tough period. I’ve even discovered already that for me, half of a 5mg vicodin taken, say, every two hours works with the ibu to cut the pain just fine at this point, rather than a 5mg vicodin every four hours, which makes me groggy. I’ll adjust dosing as my healing progresses to be sure I’m only “adequately” medicating, i.e., to be sure I’m not feeling undue pain, but no more meds than that. It’s a balancing act, alot of listening to your body, respecting what it says, and responding accordingly to help it heal and avoid any more misery than you already have to endure. It ain’t fun as we all have chronicled above, but I promise you that with this kind of approach, the experience does not have to be **total** hell…

16. Anna Says:
    September 24th, 2004 at 10:51 am

    Greg:
    Sorry about your break — but you have a great attitude. You’re absolutely right — getting good rest is really important. I used Ibuprofen but stopped at about the 3-week point because I didn’t need it … you’ll be there soon!
    I had my 4-week x-ray yesterday and all is progressing nicely. The bones are generating good growth at the ends and, because of consistent use of the figure-8 brace and sling, the bones have moved closer together (woo-hoo!). The doc thinks that the bones will be nicely healed within the next 2-4 weeks. In the meantime, I can use the sling or figure-8 as needed and I can start to add more movement and put more weight on my left arm. ‘Pain’ is supposed to be my guide — push myself but if it hurts, don’t do it.
    I’m still on the trainer at the gym but this is Seattle — rainy season has started so it’s not too bad.
    Hope you’re feeling better soon!

17. Junior Says:
    November 9th, 2004 at 7:33 pm

    I stumbled across this site while searching Google for sites on clavicle injuries, and got a good laugh out of Laura’s story. Thanks Laura!! Hope you’re feeling better!!
    While not a cyclist, I suffered a severe clavicle fracture during a bad car accident several weeks ago. I can definitely relate to Laura’s pain, especially during the first couple of weeks. As she mentioned, tying shoes proved painful, so I either wore flip-flops or manuevered into my shoes without the need to redo the laces. Given the nature of this type of injury, the usual suggestion for pain management is ibuprofen. Since healing takes a while, those using ibuprofen may encounter stomach irritation and increased skin sensitivity to sunlight. Since I try to go the natural route whenever possible, I’ve been taking “White Willow Extract” in place of ibuprofen. (info at: http://www.nutritional-supplement-info.com/white-willow-bark-extract.html ) I read about this extract some years back and started using it after the accident. It has worked wonders for me, with no side effects. This suppliment can usually be found at your local GNC or vitamin shop. Aside from staying away from alcohol, an article I read also recommended to limit the consumption of caffeinated drinks. **Disclaimer:** I’m in no way affiliated with any herbal shop, or anti-ibuprofen coalition. I’m simply stating my experience with an alternative to ibuprofen which worked for me. Good luck!

18. Carol Says:
    December 8th, 2004 at 6:54 pm

    Thanks everyone for their insightful stories – most inspiring and comforting. I am on day 4 from a broken right clavicle from a bicycle crash. I’m not a cyclist (obviously) and was taking my dog out to excercise. He was spooked and ran in front of my bike. I tried to brake with my right hand unsucessfuly, hit the dog with my front tire and my shoulder with the concrete. I have an overlapping complete break and I have the option of having it surgically set. I have swam USS competition and Masters. My primary source of excersise is still keeping up with the 12 to 15 year olds on our local swim team. I am 49 now and am concerned about it healing quickly and properly so I can swim when I’m 90. I am also a Dental Hygienist so I am out of work for a minimum of 6 weeks. Any pros or cons – advise for me?

19. Jillianne Says:
    January 17th, 2005 at 10:11 am

    o wow…. i am so glad i read this… i broke my collar bone a week ago… and i just started getting these neon yellow bruises…… its good to read what’s in store…. im only 15 and i broke it while playing soccer…. i should hope I will be fit and ready for our games soon…. in another 3 weeks hopefully….. I’m in the figure 8 brace and i feel like someone could attach a rope to it and i’d look like i had a child’s leash…. but this story made me laugh and i will be thinking about it through out this entire healing process. thank you…. jillianne

20. Nicky Willey Says:
    January 31st, 2005 at 8:48 am

    Hi fellow sufferers…I’m 48 and I broke my left collar bone and sprained my knee while snowboarding on Dec 17 2004, just before my birthday and Christmas, hooray.
    The doctor that gave me the most useful information was the first doctor I saw at Snowshoe Mountain. He was a skier himself and had seen hundreds of broken collar bones come through. He told me that after 4 weeks I should have my range of movement back in my arm, and although the 1st week would be bad, I’d getter a little better each week after, so at the end of 4 weeks I’d be able to wave my arm above my head ok. I asked him how I’d know when I was fully better and able to go back snowboarding. He asked me if I could do a push-up before my accident? Yes. Then when I could do a push-up again, I’d be ready!
    I too was very disappointed after 4 weeks to see no difference in my x-ray from the first one taken (a nice big gap between the overlapping bones) but my ortho surgeon explained that some people never grow back a bone connection across the break. My arm movement was good and the collar bone appeared to be moving as one piece, so he told me to keep wearing my figure of eight brace for a further 2 weeks (6 weeks total) and come back at 8 weeks. So, I’ve just stopped wearing the brace. My shoulder does still ache a little, and I have trouble sleeping because I just can’t find a good comfortable position. I’m still taking an Ibuprofen in the morning just to take the edge off, but only that one a day. I have been taking 1000mg of calcium each day for the past year now anyway, so just carried on with this (prevention for osteoporosis, recommended by my regular doctor).
    The good news is that I’m feeling pretty good at the 6 week mark, the bad news is…We pre-book one ‘big’ snowboarding trip each season and so are going to Jackson Hole Wyoming on Feb 12 2005. I found a Lacrosse shoulder brace at Dick’s sporting goods that has clavical protection and big shoulder pads, so I’m going to strap myself in and give it a go…..Crazy, you may think, but hey, that’s why we do these ‘dangerous’ sports in the first place, because we’re crazy!
    Good Luck to all breakees out there, if it takes an ‘oldie’ like me 6 weeks, then you should be ok in a lot less! Nicky

21. Mark Says:
    February 2nd, 2005 at 6:02 pm

    I broke my collar bone a week at 4 days ago playing football and I miss having use of my right arm =\. Anyhow, The bone began healing about 4 days ago and now it can support the weight of my shoulder without a sling. Im not sure why I was not given a brace but I wish I had one because my shoulders do not seem even. Does anyone else see a difference? What should I do?

22. Hans Says:
    February 2nd, 2005 at 7:05 pm

    Mark – I would recommend keeping your arm in a sling. Even though your shoulder can support the weight it’s still early. Straining your shoulder may damage the healing process and possibly rebreak the bones just fusing together.
    As for the uneven shoulders, that’s possible. Because there is normally muscle injury along with the broken bone, your muscles are probably extremely tight. That would change the height you hold your shoulder. Similar to shrugging on one side. My shoulder was like that for a couple of weeks. But, as always, consult your doctor.
    Good luck!

23. Mark Says:
    February 5th, 2005 at 2:31 pm

    Thanks for the advice Hans, I think the shoulders are leveling out …at least more level than when I last posted a message. Now Im getting a constant feeling of the two pieces being forced back into alignment which is good because its healing straight but bad because it feels annoying. Gotta love the daily suprises of a broken collar bone.

24. Shirley Hendrickson Says:
    February 12th, 2005 at 7:17 pm

    I’m so glad I found all of you. One yr. ago my bull threw his head into my shoulder while I was in the process of throwing hay into the feeder. I felt something, but thought I had just dislocated or bruised something? There was hardly any pain that evening and even the next day,except when I tried to use it! I waited for my trucker to get home the next day, before going to see the Dr. Sure enough it had snapped cleanly in 2. He gave me a figure 8 brace and a sling…so I figured all was well…just wait for the darned thing to heal. It healed finally leaving a huge bump where the bones grew back overlapped. The orthopedic surgeon told me just not to let anything hit me there, for it’s jutting up with very little skin to cover it. I have full strenth in my arm, but about 6 months ago I began to ache between my shoulder blades and across that shoulder and down my arm. Have had those blasts of pain in my bicept and forearm too?? Then came THE HEADACHES!!!?? Has any one had those in response to a broken clavicle?? They get worse day by day, till I have to spend days with my head on a pilloow…dosed with vicodin and ibupropin. I didn’t read where any of you had those in connection with your breaks, so makes me wonder where they’re coming from?? Have never had headaches in my life!! Seems to make sense to me that a “crooked” healing would throw your whole upper body out of kilter?? Like how we overcomensate when we sprain something?!! I have an appointment with a neurologist next Mo. So guess I’ll spend a few more days coddling myself. Any suggestions would be really helpful, if even for empathy. Feb. 12, 2005 7:05 PM Shirley.

25. Hans Says:
    February 15th, 2005 at 8:29 am

    Shirley – I highly recommend you go and have a doctor checkout your symptoms. You should not be having headaches after so long a time. There may be nerve damage. Or, maybe something else that isn’t related to your broken collar bone. But, go to a doctor. I really want to stress that you do so.

26. robin Says:
    February 24th, 2005 at 8:23 am

    I’m so glad I found this website! I incurred a spiral fracture of my left collar bone while riding 10 days ago as I was trying to train for a tri, which is now postponed by 6-10 weeks. I really want to get on a stationary bike but I’m in quite a bit of pain and I’m trying not to use vicodin (addictive) or ibuprofen b/c it retards bone growth. I just went back to work this week and, of course, regressed b/c I did too much. I thought I was incredily whimpy but it’s nice to know others have similar experiences. However, depression has still taken on a whole new meaning for me.

27. J.Austin Hunt Says:
    March 5th, 2005 at 12:29 am

    Well, I guess I am ready to join to the club.
    Today, March 4, 2005 I called in “sick” to work to go snowboard at Squaw Valley in Tahoe CA.
    At about 1:00 we found the snowboard park and kicker jumps…
    At about 1:30 I cleared the first small tabletop to pick up speed for the big one (10ft)
    I knew I needed good spead to clear the large tabletop so I pointed, and went for it. At the last second I hit a small clump of snow and it slowed down my launch just enough to NOT clear the tabletop.
    Instead…
    I landed exactly where the flat part of the tabletop meets the downward sloped landing area…I landed perfectly however due to the position of my landing I was “bounced” into the air to eventually be brought down hard on my right shoulder.
    Since I was in the landing area I had to pick myself up (OUCH!!) and head to the SV Med Clinic in pain. As I walked into the medical clinic I felt a sigh of relief as I knew I was in good hands; however, the Squaw Valley medical clinic does NOT accept Health Net insurance??? They wanted $150 for x-rays and $350 for the doctor to see me.
    In nicer words, I told them to shove it. Luckily I was able to sweet talk the very nice girl at the counter into giving me some pain killers.
    I spent the rest of the day watching basketball in the lodge, sipping Sierra Nevada and waiting for my friend to finish his day.
    Now “I” get to drive my STICK SHIFT home all the way to Santa Cruz, CA! A four hour drive. My friend cannot drive a stick and remember that I hurt my right shoulder….GREAT!
    Do I let my buddy tear up the transmission on my new Audi A4 Quattro while learning to drive a stick, hmmmmm….NO!
    Well, four and a half hours later, we made it! The only thing I could not do was shift into fifth gear, so I got my friend to do it.
    What a day…
    After searching the net and eventually ending up here, I have determined that I most likely fractured my cavical. I assume it is not so bad since there is no brusing and I am not in that much pain (unless I try to undress…how much fun is that!)
    I plan to go to the doctor tommorow but assume I will have to set up an appointment with an Ortho doc as well. My question to you all is this?
    What would you say the extent of my injury is? I am not in much pain unless I move my right arm forward or back, or if I quickly move it any direction. It kind of has the discomfort of a sprained ankle, however the degree of swelling indicates to me that it is not simply an ACJ sprain (my whole shoulder is swollen).
    Also, what are your recommendations for releaving the pain. I CANNOT wear a sling as I am right handed, do 100% of my work on the computer and drive a stick. So far I have gathered the following: Calcium, Ibuprofin, Alchohol… any one else know of any to add to this list and/or something I can use instead of a sling?
    I want to thank everyone for there input here. I look forward to being a part of your website community.
    I hope my story did not bore you, just needed to vent to someone. Explaning how I broke my collarbone to my work while at home “sick” is another story.
    Not looking forward to tonights sleep, maybe I will hang by my feet like a bat? Anyone tried that yet?
    Cheers,
    Jah
    PS: Once this has healed…I will be back to Squaw Valley to settle my “beef” with that kicker jump, and I will post a picture of myself CLEARING it for you!!!

28. Kate Daubney Says:
    March 6th, 2005 at 5:46 am

    2 weeks ago, while enjoying a quiet ride on my trusty horse she spooked at something in the hedge and asI result I ended up in an untidy heap on the floor, on a very rocky track. I can’t say enough how relieved I am I was wearing my riding hat as I distictly remember hitting my head very hard as I impacted the ground. However, when I eventualy came around and tried to climb back on I felt an agonising pain in my right arm, which consequently was so painful that I blacked out again and fell off the horse a second time! Having limpted a mile back home (calling my loving steed every name under the sun each step of the way!) I was rushed to Accident and Emergency and was faced with an xray of my collarbone which showed the bone to have snapped with a 2cm gap between the break.
    Originally I was sent away with just a sling, and with the pain in my shoulder my natural instinct was to hunch over as it was too painful to hold my shoulder back. I was refered to a fracture clinic who on seeing my break began to talk about surgery. Desperate to avoid this I asked if anything else could be done and thats when they produced the figure of eight back brace. After a lot of tears and what felt like torture they managed to prize my shoulder back into position and fit the brace and I can’t say how relieved I am now, 2 weeks down the line, that they did. I’ve had 2 furthur xrays and both, depresingly, show absolutely no change in the break, however I’m able to lift my arm almost level with my shoulder without to much pain. As soon as the brace comes off for showering it becomes apparent just how much support it offers as unfortunatley the discomfort and high pain level returns, however at least I know its giving my collar bone a chance to heal itself and when I compare my posture to how it would probably be if I’d just stuck with the sling, it doesn’t bare thinking about. I have another appointemt at the fracture clinic tommorrow so I’m preying that it will show the bones to be growing back. It really isn’t until something like this happens you that you realise just how complicated breaking a bone can be. Getting dressed takes me on average an hour, and without fail my top will get caught on the brace so I’ll have to dress in a differnt position depending on the item of clothing. Hair styles are limited to those of the one armed variety (at least the ‘bed head’ looks in) as for sleeping, it takes me half an hour to position the pillows perfectly to keep me from rolling over but the thing which has helped me sleep at night (other than codeine) is the knowledge that in all this I’m not alone! Thanks to you all for that!

29. Hans Says:
    March 6th, 2005 at 9:36 pm

    Jah – Good description of your crash. Sorry to hear about it. I just got back from boarding up at Kirkwood and stayed away from the jumps. But, Mister Tree got really close this time.
    Regarding your question about how bad you are injured. Really, the only way to tell is by seeing a doc and getting x-rays. It’s not possible to know any other way. And, you don’t want to waste the first week or two deciding to get checked out or not. Especially if it’s a broken bone.
    As for wearing a sling. You will be able to do it. I’m right handed and was able to continue typing, driving my stick, etc.. If your collar bone is broken, you definately need to immobilize the shoulder. A sling and if possible a figure eight.
    As for pain meds, I was lucky and didn’t have too much pain so I only used Advil. Read through other’s comments on this page and on the other two pages, “Broken Clavicle” and “Broken Clavicle No More”, that have links at the top of the page.
    Good luck and send a photo when you do kick the kicker.

30. Hans Says:
    March 6th, 2005 at 9:44 pm

    Kate – I feel for you. I used to ride horseback often when I was in Arizona. My favorite horse had a mind of her own. Sent me tumbling a few times. Luckily only with a bruised ego and several choice expletives
    Glad to hear the figure-eight brace is working out for you. I swear by it. Your description of the pain putting on the brace for the first time reminded me of when they first x-rayed my shoulder. I had to hold heavier and heavier weights in the hand so it would pull down the shoulder and give a better x-ray! Argh.
    Good luck!

31. Robert Says:
    March 13th, 2005 at 2:40 pm

    Today I broke my clavicle while playing soccer – landed fast and hard on my right shoulder, and heard the crack. The lump on the collar bone was enough to send me to the ER. Soccer has sent me to the ER a number of times, I guess I must love to play. But that’s a story for another day.
    Thanks to Laura and Hans, for insights and inspiring others to share and heal, as well.
    So – I was trying out for a team in the DC burbs in a fossil league – 45 and over. I just turned 45, and well I suppose this guy was only too eager to welcome me to the league. I could be really pissed about it – this match was merely a tune-up for the spring season, the tackle at close range wasn’t necessary. In broken English, he told me that he got the ball first. Well, big whoop, he got me as well. I’ll probably miss half of the season. but it’s the part-time carpentry work I’ve been doing that I will really miss, I have a few people waiting for me to complete projects that most definitely require two arms and two hands.
    Time to make myself saleable again in computer work. Of course, I have two PCs I’ve configured in my work space that I need to pack back up and deliver, install, & final-setup at their new owners’ homes. No vicadin for me.
    A good friend had driven me to the ER, never a pleasant task. I told Cliff not to wait for me, but like I said, he’s a good man and friend – he came in to make sure I’d be okay.
    I’d really love to see the collarbone heal. I am a big believer in the body being able to mend, and wanting to mend. Having grown up in Pittsburgh during the Steelers’ glory days, I am still in awe of Rocky Bleier, and his willpower to break through the pain of his leg and feet injuries to become a professional footballer, and a champion, at that.
    Back to the clavicle. It’s broken in two places, the xrays showing a nice wide gap of a break nearer my neck, and a contusion of a compression break closer to the shoulder. Even as I sit in the chair and type, and breathe, I can feel the bone(s) shifting. If one bone breaks into three pieces, can you call each piece a bone? George Carlin once said that if you break a crumb in two, do you have two half-crumbs, or just two crumbs?
    Laura, I am not sure if you follow this thread anymore, but you were nuts to get back on that bike so early! But I am happy for you, that you succeeded, on your own terms. Same to you, Hans, and the other snowboarders, way to go.
    I suppose I am glad it was too cold today to ride my motorcycle to the field; I still had manual gears to work through on the way home, but no way could I hold the handlebar let alone twist the throttle!
    I took a cab back from the ER to my truck, still at the field. He was playing Garrison Keillor’s Prairie Home Companion, a repeat of the Saturday night broadcast, and his tale from Lake Wobegone had the mixed morale, that we prepare for the worst to happen, and accept it because it does happen; and that we exult our thanks for everything! I felt I could relate.
    So I’d better get my next does of painkiller, and keep up with the calcium intake. I love the taste of milk, and hey! Ice cream has milk in it….

32. Tony Says:
    March 25th, 2005 at 3:43 pm

    i am on day 2 after a mt bike crash 7 mi into a 14 mi trail in moab, ut, porcupine rim. after the initial accident, i got up to ride out, crashed and landed on the same shoulder. 2 hours and many agonizing bumps later i was strapping on a sling and heading home, with my gf driving through a rocky mountain blizzard we made it home in 6 hours. question? i wad only provided with a sling, should i seek out a figure 8 brace, and why? is it for increased support and will it help in the long run? (1 post on here said it did and i was wondering if that is a universal truth)

33. Hans Says:
    March 25th, 2005 at 9:18 pm

    Tony – My team mate just busted her clavicle. She turned to me for advice and one of the things I highly recommended was a figure-eight brace. It helps to keep your shoulders immobile and aligned correctly. These are both really important for healing. I’ve mentioned why on this page and the collar bone other pages on my site.
    It seams like many doctors just give the advice of wearing a sling and using ice and/or advil. Well, there’s more to it than that. That advice might be fine for little kids whose bones heal up right away. But for most of us, we can use a little extra help. The figure-eight sling is especially important. It worked for me and has worked for others. Why not wear one?
    Hope you heal fast. Wish I was riding Moab. Sometime soon I hope.

34. Amina Says:
    March 27th, 2005 at 10:55 am

    Hi, great to find your website… It’s Mar 27 today, and on Mar 15 I was out for a little ride, when a huge cross-wind gust caught my front wheel and (I guess) started to push me over into on-coming traffic (i admit to only having one hand on the bars, I think i was adjusting my bike jersey or something). Anyway, I saw myself heading straight for the cars, panicked, tried to counter-steer away and next thing I know the bike went left and I went right… Boom. Fell on my right forearm, rolled over onto my right shoulder and hit my head a little too. Knew right away that I’d either broken my collarbone or dislocated a shoulder, the pain was pretty bad (though not as bad as it got later, I was shakey from shock and adrenaline).
    I won’t go through the hospital ride, x-rays (thank god for IV morphine, that really was NOT fun), cutting off of my favorite jersey (the one from my first club ride days, that I’d had for 15 years)… turns out I managed a clean-thru break about 1/3 of the way from my right shoulder. So the Rx is the same as you’ve all described: vicodin + ibuprofen for pain, the Figure-8 brace and/or sling, bed-rest, immoblize the area as much as possible. An intersting note at the end: when it got time to discharge me for home, the ortho doc (they sent me there from ER) said, “Ok now, let’s get your shirt on and I’ll have Nurse X show you how to put the sling on.” Slight problem there, Doc– no shirt, remember you cut it off me?? Apparently this is a problem not previously encountered at Ortho! Pretty funny, they all sat around looking at me like some interesting biological specimen. “Hmmm, now what do we do here?”
    I’ve followed the same regimen as all others in here: hit the vicodin pretty hard for the first 3-4 days or so, I was actually happy for the fuzziness because it helped cut the boredom of lying around the couch all the time. I also agree with keeping up with the pain– welcome advice from my next-door-neighbor nurse. The figure 8 I find has been the most helpful. The sling was useful the first 3 days or so– after that, I have only used it here-and-there, keeping my arm crunched up like that makes it cramp up painfully. I got injured on a Tuesday and took the rest of the week off, so by the time I went back to work on Monday, I’d had 5 days off. I got pretty tired on Monday though and had to leave early. In fact on Monday all I did, pretty much, was tell my war story and try to type with one hand. I was back on the fat-seat bikes at the gym by Saturday morning, complete with figure 8 and arm sling. Ditto on previous comments about sitting upright, etc. Getting my blood moving felt awesome!
    Hearing from all of you is good– I’m 36 and so now I will not be crushed if, when I go to get my first Xrays, I discover no “visible” bone formation. I will tell you that about 12 days after the accident, I have minimal pain, am totally off all painkillers (including Ibuprofen), and have good arm mobility provided I don’t shrug my shoulders or try to raise my arm up above about nipple level. Based on your collective experience, I will for the next 2 weeks at leat resign myself to cranking up the tunes on the Ipod (wishing for injectable painkillers in my buttocks for the FatSeatTortureMachines at the gym).
    A question: has anyone out there tried to go jogging with a collarbone break, and at what point did you try?

35. Amina Says:
    March 27th, 2005 at 11:00 am

    One more thing- my husband Dave has been awesome thru all of this, having him around to help me shower, dress, give moral support, and even find me attractive despite the putrid bruise colors and nasty swelling has been beyond wonderful. Thanks, sweetie!

36. Alan Eyerly Says:
    March 27th, 2005 at 4:02 pm

    Hey, all. Thanks for the Web postings. Nice to hear from others with similar challenges. I broke my left clavicle 8 days ago in a scary cycling accident, so my triathlon training is on hold for another 5 to 7 weeks at least. I live in Honolulu and was in great condition for the Honolulu Triathlon on April 7 and the Honu Half-Ironman on June 5 on the Big Island. It’s amazing how your life can take such a dramatic turn for the worse in just one second. I’m hoping to keep up my cardio fitness by walking hills and riding a recumbent bike at the gym. What freaks me out the most is when it feels like the bone has shifted out of place. I don’t know what to do when that happens. I go in for a follow-up exam with my orthopedist on April 6, so hopefully I’ll get some good news. This experience makes me realize how much I love triathlons and especially my tri workout buddies. Every day I’m able to train is a gift that I won’t take for granted ever again. Anyway, best of luck to everyone who is going through a similar experience. I hope we all emerge stronger. Aloha! – Alan

37. Alex Anderson Says:
    April 2nd, 2005 at 10:09 am

    Hello, reading this makes me feel better i broke my collar bone skiing 4 weeks ago, a backflip gone wrong..i can usually do them fine but this time i just didnt make it!…so when i went to the doctor i asked him about all the stuff on hear from my uncle it took quite along time but he said kids my age collar bones will heal alot faster, and from reading the other guys story mine is healing pretty good bceause i have it where the long part didnt get fully in line and so there is the bump there where its healing over im now able to throw in baseball after 4 weeks!

38. Andrew Says:
    April 8th, 2005 at 8:29 pm

    Lol! I broke mine 3 days ago in a skiing accident. So what’s up Alex? Lol. This sucks.

39. dave robertson Says:
    April 17th, 2005 at 1:03 pm

    This is my first one handed attempt at typing..broke collar bone 28 hours ago during group training ride…hit a hole with-out warning at 24 miles/hour..i sit on my deck enjoying this perfect spring weather reading these comments realizing i have a long way to go for healing…could be worse..cracked my helmet and almost passed out..my er dr said i had no soft tissue damage and led me to believe it was only my tolerance to pain which would hinder my motion…glad i found this site before i did something stupid!!!! going to ortho tommorrow….hope my company is understanding…i’m a corporate pilot who knows there’s 1000 guys out there who want my job! got some hydrocordone…sure helps..is vicadin better? ipprophen and ice…figure 8 brace hopefully tommorrow, anything else? Will definately be on trainer soon…not my fav..am thankful for loving wife!!!! good luck to all out there..cycling is more dangerous than flying jets…but can’t wait to get back out there

40. hazel Says:
    April 25th, 2005 at 9:11 pm

    thanks for this site, its very helpful. im not a cyclist , i am travelling new zealand (im from england so am miles away from my home comforts). i broke my collar bone in three places six days ago(at a lord of the rings site), they were considering surgery and im living in a crappy campervan in minus degree temperatures. the pain had eased a lot till today, i was very cold in the night, not surprisingly as im sleeping in a converted van. think my arm nust have seized up as im in a lot of pain today. its good to hear that this is normal, very jealous of people getting to rest it though. we have been racing through the country at a great pace doing tramping and generally wandering round in the cold but cant moan too much cos still on an amazing holiday and ive already done the skydive!!!
    if anyone wants to email me about collar bones, id be very grateful. creweh@yahoo.co.uk

41. dave Says:
    April 26th, 2005 at 7:05 pm

    Oh well, so much for a fast heal..seems I broke my collar bone out on the end (shattered it is more appropriate) and will have surgery in two days to remove pieces of the bone..am hoping it will heal ok then…been riding on trainer…i can’t really complain much..sounds like hazel is having to tough it out…new zealand with a broken collar bone…how did u break it?

42. Andrew Says:
    April 26th, 2005 at 7:27 pm

    It’s weird…I don’t think i’ve been careful enuf, but it’s now week 4 for me and all of a sudden one night it began to sting. I am thinking this is becuz it is healing? I dunno… Thx

43. hazel Says:
    April 28th, 2005 at 3:26 pm

    i forgot to mention how i broke it. mainly cos its ridiculous, i was just running down a hill and i kind of just went flying and heard a crack. ive never broken a bone before or had a bad accident, so quite silly.
    i cant believe how many people are saying it isnt healing with just a sling. making me quite nervous cos the dr was considering surgery because it was broken in three places but decided against it. i have an xray slip so i can go to a hospital and get one done after two weeks, so im hoping it will be ok.
    anyway, best wishes for my fellow collar bone breakees.

44. Liz Says:
    April 29th, 2005 at 5:01 pm

    Wow, this has been very helpful. In my 27 years I had never broken a bone before April 24. I was palying soccer in a co-ed league and was hit from behind by a large man. When I went down I heard the crack in my collar bone. Off to the ER and 5 hours later with a few shots of morphine my Doc confirmed it was broken. Now what should I expect??? I’ve read about large bumps forming on the shoulder? Yuck! Luckily no sugery needed but what should I be doing to help the healing? Im wearing a figure 8 brace and have lots of movement on my left side although I still can’t dress myself. Its actually been quite a comical experience.
    Im a bit worried that I am using my arm too much, I dont want to heal out of place. Any advice?
    My grandma broke hers in the 1930s and her adivce… Put on a bath robe and forget the underware

45. Vicky Says:
    May 6th, 2005 at 3:02 pm

    Brilliant! Have just come across ur web site after chatting with my mum about not being happy with how my fracture was healing – she said have a look on the internet….. so here i am. Boyfriend, Dave, thinks i’m mad, have been laughing away to myself reading down the page…reading bits out to him, but he’s never been in the club so doesn’t know….
    Fell off a very grumpy horse who wanted his dinner 2 weeks ago, should have called it quits but i’m just too stubborn… I’ve never been in so much pain, i came round on the floor with the dog licking my face, kinda knew it was bad when i couldn’t get up. As for the nurse who wrestled my arm into the sling with no pain killers, don’t wanna go there again. Broken the distal end.
    Laura you are so right, alcohol is a great healer well helps you to ignore the pain…..my poison of choice has been Stella, though i wouldn’t reccomed it for the first week, try spirits, as going to the toilet is def your biggest challenge!
    How come it is that when you do things like this they always come at the worst time? 2 days after i was due to take Dave to Spain as a supprise for his 30th bday, we still made it but took ages to get anywhere……….and it didn’t help him taking photos of me when i kept getting stuck trying to put clothes on! Joking aside, i wouldn’t have coped without him…… he’s been a saint, washing me and applying hair removal cream to the hairiest armpit in the world even shaving the other one! Couldn’t quite comment on his hair dressing skills, i’ve been seen in some interesting styles recently.
    End of week 1 we were also due to go camping for the weekend! Sun loungers are imperative to carry this out if any one else is stupid enough to consider it! Gutted to go to the beach and watch everyone else surfing and playing ball games. So the end of week two is here now, i’m amazed by how much less pain there is. For any of you in the early stages it’s amazing how much less pain there is…promise! Though my arm is getting awfully stiff and i’m getting nasty pains down my shoulder blade. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there anyway you can do any exercise or at least stretch out? I’m still in a normal sling, after what i’ve read i wonder if a figure of 8 sling would be better? I’ve still got a big bump and can feel the end of my bone, can’t lift my arm above my shoulder or touch my face with my hand….my shoulder in still raised, is this still normal? Will the muscles relax? I can still feel the bones grating a bit too. I’ve taken my arm outta the sling to stretch it a couple of times as it’s so stiff but if it’s out too long i really start to ache. Is there too much movement you can do like Liz asked?
    I saw a post card yesterday that said ‘this would be really funny if it wasn’t happening to me’, i think that it’s really important to keep your sense of humor going and laugh at situations not get frustrated by them.. though easier said than done! Oh due to move house tomorrow! Fracture clinic in 2 days, they did say if there was no difference they may pin / plate it, has anyone had this done? According to the doctor, he said they don’t usually but it was a ‘new thing from the States’?!?!? I really want to get back to swimming and riding, plus i’ve just learnt to snowboard and am worried the next holiday of doing head first tumbles down slopes is gonna take it’s toll?
    thanks

46. Lyndsey Says:
    May 9th, 2005 at 12:58 am

    Hi, good to read of others experiences with broken clavicles!
    I broke my left clavicle 4 weeks ago when I fell off my horse, and landed against a tree – ouch!
    Initially, the doctor said a sling would be sufficient as collar bones usually heal fairly easily.
    Mine was broken in 3 pieces with a shard of bone sticking painfully up under the skin. I went back to see the orthopedic surgeon, who told me I would need surgery to fix it back together.
    I had the op 2 weeks ago now, it’s much less painful and I am going for my first physio session today. I will be so glad to be rid of this sling and start getting my life back to normal again!
    I would just like to recommend the homeopathic remedy Symhytum for aiding bone repair – it’s from the plant Comfrey, which is also called ‘Knitbone’ and it does just that!

47. Christine Says:
    May 9th, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    Wow!! Glad I ran across this site!
    I just broke my collar bone last Sunday and was looking for some idea as to how long it would take to heal. I just went into emergency for x-rays and ultrasounds on the day it happened (Dr. thought I may have ruptured my spleen due to the ribs on my left side taking quite the hit as well) but haven’t been back since (they basically said there wasn’t much they could do about it).
    Did my injury mountain biking…went off a jump wrong and down I went…UGH
    Love the comment about the “pit of dispair”!! Amazing, I’m not the only one who had concerns in that area. Lucky for me I too have a Mach 3 and will be putting it to the test by the end of the week!
    Thanks for all of your information!!

48. Tom Says:
    May 18th, 2005 at 5:12 am

    Wonderful to read about other’s with same ailment. Broke mine for the second time on 5/16.ER gave me the figure 8 and sent me home. Since this is second time I have an idea what to expect, BUT this time I am having burning hot stabbing pain when I try to lay down. Slept in a chair last night and pain meds did not touch this pain. Have any of you brave souls had this experience also?

49. Lyndsey Says:
    May 18th, 2005 at 1:06 pm

    Tom, I had the burning, stabbing pain when I did mine, especially when laying down or trying to sit up, before it was fixed. In my case it was the loose fragment moving and causing damage to the surrounding nerves & tissues. It was at it’s worst for about the first 4-5 days and then seemed to ease off. I had surgery to fix it after 2 weeks.

50. Carl Says:
    May 21st, 2005 at 8:38 am

    I broke the middle third of my left clavicle in a hard fall in April. The bump was high and noticeable. I was in pain and couldn’t move the shoulder without experiencing pain at all. Somehow I managed to get in my car, strap on a seat belt, and drive stick shift home. Two days later, I went to the emergency room. I broke it in two places as the clavicle looked like a “z”. The top part of the ‘z’ is closest to my neck and the upper break looked like a sharp bone. They gave me a sling and told me to let it heal. They also referred me to an orthopedist. The next day (day 3), at the orthopedist’s office, 2 orthopedists said to let it heal. So that’s 3 professionals sticking to conventional orthopedic textbooks. For a few days I trusted their unanimous decision. When the pain subsided after day 7, I tried to raise my arm. It was uncomfortable because of the ‘z’ fracture, I felt something was stuck, so I sought Eastern help and went to get opinions from Chinese Traditional Medicine doctors. The first one I went to said that because I broke it in 3 places that I should get surgery. He talked about plates and screws. His comment carried weight because he’s open-minded enough to consider options outside his discipline. So I bore that in mind. The second Chinese TM doc I went to thought the clavicle is fixable. I gave him a try as he broke the middle piece of the ‘z’ off without anesthesia (OOOOOW!). For the next 3 weeks (to week 4), I was re-bandaged almost daily to immobilize the bones. The bandages were very tight, restricting motion of my left arm and in the beginning overly tight that my arm and hands swelled. I wondered at the time if that was all necessary. In fact, I was told to pull my elbow straight back so I can pull back the clavicle, allowing it to heal better. This makes sense because one of the things you don’t want is a shortened clavicle. According to the Chinese doc, supposedly the middle part of the ‘z’ fused with the top part of the clavicle (which is closer to my neck). So during week 4, I went back to the orthopedist for a follow-up. The x-ray seemed to suggest that either the bones did fuse or that there was a lot of calcification to dull the sharpness. There was also something that suggested that the middle piece grafted itself to the lower part of the fracture, resembling an “L”. In all fairness, I should have another x-ray to make sure, but it’s been almost 5 weeks and I need something more definite than these “closed reduction” methods (bones manipulated without breaking skin). The orthopedist also got me a bone growth stimulator, which from what I read in testimonials online are ineffective for clavicle treatment. My friend, an MD, thought the same. Since my injury, I’ve been working from home and sitting in a couch all day, trying not to move too much. It’s been a real challenge because the skies have been blue over here in New York while I’m stuck indoors and long to go outside to have fun. I’ve tried to keep positive on my recovery, but uncertainty weighed on me and I got depressed. But I wasn’t going to let things lie, so I did more research online and found some potentially helpful links. It seems that Dr Basamania has developed an IM pin method, which seems to have a high percentage of satisfaction with few complications.
    Dr Basamania’s physician page:
    http://www.dukehealth.org/physicians/F389C81B5DCEAC8985256DFD006A9302
    Testimonials for Dr Basamania:
    http://cluster02.shoulder1.com/community/forums30.cfm/1366/11/1/recent
    http://www.body1.com/talk/forums30.cfm?action=4&threadid=9826#28952
    His procedure:
    http://www.wheelessonline.com/ortho/im_pin_fixation_of_clavicle_frx
    A perspective on clavicle breaks from someone who’s broken both:
    http://www.jpy.com/john/clavicle/
    After reading the stories about Dr Basamania, I’ve become more optimistic about pathways to recovery. At the current time my shoulder area is still wrapped in bandages and I’m still trying not to force things.
    There are a lot of cases in which malunion had long-term problems, so I’m really considering on consulting Dr Basamania.
    I hope some of you find this useful.

51. Kiara Says:
    May 21st, 2005 at 6:16 pm

    I posted a comment a while back– this is an update. I had a complete break about a 1/3 of the way from the shoulder. I’m 36 and athletic– had to cancel plans to do the Hawaii 1/2 ironman (june) when this happened in March! ARRGH. Anyway, I’m at week 9, and getting pretty frustrated. The Xrays at week 8 looked the same, to my inexperienced eyes, as the Xrays taken right after my fall– definitely still a big gap between the bone pieces. I’ve gotten to the point where I can (carefully) move my arm up enough to wash my hair with both hands, but it aches. If I move my arm around too much, the break point hurts. Of course I’m right handed and it’s my right clavicle. Wore the figure 8 brace religously for 5 to 6 weeks, then stopped because it wasn’t helping anymore. However, the docs think it’s helped me not have a much of a bump… I, of course, think that the reason I don’t have a bump is that IT’S NOT JOINING UP! Sigh. Exercise consists of alternating between a stair climber and a stationary bike. I can do some abdominal exercises if I’m careful. I tried running at week 7 but that was too soon– the docs say that “bones like stability,” so probably better not to run (yeah but how do you keep a clavicle “stable”, anyway??) Next week I’m going to another set of doctors for a second opinion on the worth of surgery at this point. Apart from the limited arm mobility and pain at the joint (which isn’t bad, honestly–well, not usually), the thing that’s driving me crazy is that the 4th and 5th fingers on my right hand keep falling asleep/not working right. Plus my forearm hurts. Typing is hell. I feel sure it’s related to the break, because this didn’t happen before. Anyone experience this?? –Kiara

52. Carl Says:
    May 21st, 2005 at 6:47 pm

    Kiara, the big gap between the bones is a legitimate cause for concern. A bump does signify overlap and makes it easier for the broken ends of the bones to join up and find each other during the healing process. The figure-8 brace’s effectiveness should depend on the fracture. The brace pushes down on part of the clavicle and that might not work for some fractures and possibly force the bones in an unjoining position. Clavicles are very difficult to immobilize. You basically can’t do anything because the clavicle is somehow used to so many activities. I hope that one of the doctors you visit will give you sensible advice.

53. Stephanie Says:
    May 22nd, 2005 at 1:59 pm

    Let me first publicly thank the gods of vicadin- for they have allowed me to sleep every night for the past 2 weeks relatively pain free.
    About 2 weeks ago I was tackled from behind while playing rugby. I showed up at the ER and assured the nurse that on a scale of 1-10 the pain I was experiencing was most definitely an 8 or a 9 and was ushered to the front of the line. A sling, 2 percasets (spelling?) a prescription for vicadin, a box of tissues and two hours later I was a free woman.
    I spent the first few days in bed, afraid of moving a centimeter in any direction for you all know the pains that would ensue. I watched far too much reality tv, did not shower and cried a lot. Then magically, about 5 days later it became easier to get out of bed and gasp, even shower! I felt better and better until I went to my orthopedist and he explained my x-rays in greater detail and told me that I broke my clavicle in 3 places. He then introduced me to my new best friend, my figure 8. With instructions to always stand, sit, and sleep like a marine I walked out with a new definition of good posture and 4 weeks of bonding with my new friend to look forward to.
    Yes, breaking your clavicle is a horrible, painful thing to happen but I think it gives you a deeper appreciation for some of the simple things in live:
    Spray deodorant
    Button up shirts (but not button fly jeans- avoid those at all costs)
    Pillows- as many propped up as possible. Designate your comfortable sitting areas in your home and make sure that no one removes a single pillow.
    Vicadin and motrin- try not to miss a scheduled dose.
    Finally, I did some reseach online and I’m sure most of you know the importance of getting plenty of calcium, but don’t forget your multivitamin and vitamin c. IF anyone has any other tips for vitamins and minerals to take please share! Happy healing everyone!

54. Ron Says:
    May 23rd, 2005 at 11:09 pm

    On April 4/05 my clavicle was severely damaged in a cycling accident. There are now 4 pieces of the clavicle. The end piece is jagged and presses against the shoulder causing considerable pain. Since my accident my GP, surgeon and ccupational Therapist all have told me to not wear a sling. In fact they have been vehement about it. Yet I notice on the postings that many who have suffered clavicle breaks have been told to use a sling and keep the shoulder as still as possible.
    Obviously what I have been told is exactly the opposite. Surgery had been ruled out until at least 6 months have passed since the accident.
    I realise the immobilising the clavicle by wearing a sling gives the broken pieces of the clavicle a chance to fuse together whereas constantly moving the shoulder gives it no chance to do so.
    What do you think of the two extremes, one of doing shoulder exercises every day and never wearing a sling, and the other of keep the shoulder as immobilised as possible?
    And comments would be welcome.
    Ron

55. Hans Says:
    May 23rd, 2005 at 11:10 pm

    Ron – I think the difference between others and yourself is that you are scheduled for surgery. And the surgery won’t be for at least 6 months. Having a shoulder immobilized for a long period of time can lead to a frozen shoulder:
    http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/frozenshoulder/a/frozenshoulder.htm
    This condition can require a long recovery time with lots of therapy. For those with “simple” calvicle breaks, immobilizing is necessary during the time while the bones need to fuse. But I recall that my doctor had me taking my arm out of the sling several times a day to flex the arm at the elbow. Your docs recommending that you keep the arm and shoulder moving then makes sense. You mention having to do exercises but don’t mention the type. Are they simple exercises? Probably to help to keep from getting a frozen shoulder and your muscles atrophying.
    So I think you should follow the advice of your GP, surgeon and occupational Therapist. That’s three people giving the same advice and they are specialists.
    Hans
    P.s. If possible, post a comment on the site with an update on how it goes.
    P.p.s. Don’t let yourself get a frzon shoulder. I’m dealing with a shoulder injury at the moment and have gotten a case of it. It’s no fun and worse than my broken collar bone.

56. Tim Says:
    May 25th, 2005 at 6:06 pm

    Glad to find this site! I’m on week 3 since breaking my right collarbone in two places during judo training. Fortunately it looks like all the pieces are still neatly lined up end to end, albeit with a bit of a zig-zag. The doctor said I could have it pinned and plated to hold it in place but that it was only for cosmetic reasons. I turned him down on that to avoid unneccessary surgery. Everything seems to be sticking back together on it’s own like he promised, so i’m just playing the waiting game now!
    Thanks everyone for loads of information, I was amazed at just how similar an experience this is for many of us! And yes, I’d like to thank ibuprofen, button up shirts, hot showers and daytime tv.

57. Bala Says:
    May 27th, 2005 at 4:30 am

    Really nice blog to comfort me and my broken clavicle. I wish I had stumbled upon this site in the first week after I broke the bone !!! Thanks Laura for sharing your experience, and what a marvelous way to share
    I was traveling in a bus and one of the rear tyres of the bus came off !!!! The bus overturned completely and the first thing I remember was waking up to blood trickling from somewhere near to my left ear. It so happened that the cartilege of my left ear was torn, probably because I fell on shards of broken glass, and was dangling from the rest of the ear. But the piercing pain in my left shoulder took my attention off the blood and the dangling cartilege.
    I had a middle 1/3rd clavicle fracture with the bone breaking into 2 clean pieces. Fortunately the dislocation was moderate without any damage to the nerves.
    I am into my 5th week already and healing slowly. The healing was real fast in the first three weeks. However since the last two weeks there isn’t much progress. I am off pain killers and waiting for the day when I will be able shampoo the left side of my head !!
    – Jaha

58. Bala Says:
    May 27th, 2005 at 5:27 am

    Few things I would like to add to my post earlier. Since I broke my clavicle I have been examined by three doctors. The first doctor (Orthopod) put just the figure-of-8 brace and said I am good enough to travel 400KMs by rail. The next morning I went to another doctor, one more x-ray and he said I need a arm-pouch (sling) ALONG WITH the figure-of-8 bandage. He put some cotton padding below the figure-of-8 bandage to avoid blisters. It is month of April and I am in India where temperatures reach upto 40 degC. The figure-of-8 became too uncomfortable for the sweat and grime and I took it off in a fit of frustration and went to another doctor.
    This gentleman opined that figure-of-8 has been discarded ’15 years ago’ as a therapy and the doctor who prescribed it must be out of his wits. He said I should keep JUST the sling and the clavicle should heal on its own.
    I am into the fifth week and my left shoulder is noticeably shorter than my right shoulder. Don’t know if getting rid of figure-of-8 was a right thing to do.
    I would like to know what others think of Sling Vs. Figure-Of-8
    – Jaha

59. Zach Powers Says:
    May 27th, 2005 at 9:36 am

    I was riding a week ago in the rain when I hit a set of train tracks at the wrong angle and ate the asphalt pretty hard. Got up swearing and clutching my shoulder, it was intensely painful but I thought I had dislocated it or something. Got X-rays that showed I had broken my left clavicle in 2 places. The ER doc (general practitioner) put me in a figure 8 and told me to keep my shoulders back because that would help the bones align properly. 6 days later I went to see an ortho doc and he told me that I could stop wearing the figure 8, that it was really only for my own comfort. When I related what the ER doc had said he smiled and said “nah, that’s just witch-craft”. I was confused but he continued that there was really no way to imobilize the clavicle and that it would heal up fine on it’s own. He basically said that pain would keep me from doing anything that I shouldn’t be doing. I have gotten a lot of mobility in the last 7 days and and am able to wash my face with both hands! However, the right armpit is still just out of reach, thus, the pit of dispair… (Rodents of Unusual Size? I don’t beleive they exist! – sorry, the obvious Princess Bride reference had to be made)
    The real crappy part of the whole situation is that I have been training for the last 8 months , and raised $2500, for a 600 mile, 7 day charity ride from San Francisco to LA which is happening in another week and a half. I am debating whether 2 1/2 weeks of healing is enough time to get back on the bike. Doctors have told me not to, but I would be so bummed to miss the ride after all this preperation. I am considering borrowing a recumbent from a friend and riding that. However, I would feel really stupid if I fell and hurt it again. So Frustrating!
    -Zach

60. Jan Says:
    June 1st, 2005 at 6:26 pm

    Hi all,
    7 weeks into a broken left collar bone and my doctor tells me there’s not much sign of union – a few white smudges on the ends that should lead to something, he thinks. Well I’m female and 55 and really thought I’d be back cycling and running by now so I’m a bit shat off.
    I broke it April 12th, my fault, doing a really fast cycle in training for the Mooloolaba Triathlon. I figured I’d have a good chance of placing having done the full 1.5k swim, 40k cycle and 10 k run in under 3 hours at my first attempt one month previously. Anyway, 6.30am and dark, and I’m out on my bike. There’s supposed to be no body else on this road at that time of the morning but there was another woman cyclist completely within her rights, zooming down the hill into the roundabout that i was also zooming in to. Except I didn’t see her because of the trees until the last minute. I wobbled my way around her, hit the gutter on the other side and bang on to muddy grass ( it rained the night before) on to the point of my shoulder. Thank God I didn’t hit the bitumen. Having acres of skin peel off is not fun – been there done that. I knew when I hit there was somethng wrong with my shoulder. From having no one on the streets, all of a sudden people appeared from everywhere with mobile phone. My daughter freaked out when I rang her to come and collect me. I insisted my new Giant bike be put in the car first, giving instructions through muffled pain to all the bystanders as to how to dismantle the two wheels. then off to the hospital. Do you want pain relief love?? No thanks, I’d just seen my mother die in a state of morphine induced euphoria, and didn’t want to pass out completely – too much to do that day. Well we’ll have to cut that shirt off you to take an exray. No way hosay. That’s my best and most favourite cycling shirt. 10 minutes and 10 tonnes of pain later, my daughter wound the shirt off my back in one piece.
    The xray showed a complete break in the distal third with overlapping of about 1 cm. Here’s a collar and cuff and a prescription for panadeine forte and off you go. See you in 6 weeks. One tablet of panadeine forte later and I was off with the faries – so i started on Nurofen – and then eventually after a few weeks to just basic paracetamol every few days when the pain got real bad. I threw the collar and cuff on the first day – the weight around my neck caused worse pain and I developed a technique to wear a tight singlet and walk around clutching the opposite shoulder strap with my arm. This made me look normal when i went shopping and also was a lot less painful. Then I needed to get back to doing some exercise before I went bananas. Walking was OK but after 1km, my shoulder ached. So I tried the stationary bike at the gym where I could rest my arm on the bars.
    Well I can tell you sitting on a stationary bike at the gym everday for 6 weeks is no fun. At least I’m up with all the latest video clips and know all the songs of Delta Goodrem and Bachelor Girl that my kids play. The pain went from be excruciating when I moved over the first 3 weeks, to almost better, and then for the last 3 weeks i now have this this chronic ache.
    I really don’t want an operation and I’m prepared to wait a little longer for the break to heal by itself. But my husband and i have booked this trekking tour around Mont Blanc and in Peru in 4 weeks time. And I’m definitely going – broken collar bone or not. I’ve re designed a back pack and will take loads of paracetamol, But I’m going.
    Would like to hear from anyone my age – 55 – oh dear (maybe someone’s trying to tell me I ‘m too old to be out racing cycles) who’s had a broken collar bone and how long it took to heal – with or without and operation.
    Jan

61. Hans Says:
    June 4th, 2005 at 11:21 am

    Jan – Don’t let anyone tell you that you are too old to ride or race! Here in Northern California we have many “old” cyclists. But you would never know since many of them can put younger riders to shame.
    I would recommend you get a couple of opinions from doctors you trust. You might also consider seeing a physical therapist that’s familiar with your type of injury. Mine has been more informative about the specifics of my injury that my doctors.
    Also, if you haven’t, read my two other “collar bone” entries (links at the top of the page) and the comments. More good information.
    Take care,
    Hans

62. Vicky Says:
    June 7th, 2005 at 2:42 am

    I posted a comment several weeks ago, i’m into week 7 post break now. I’m not having much joy, been to fracture clinic, they didn’t really tell me anything, didn’t even show me the xray they did. The specalist did say that they would still consider grafting and plating for me, but it wasn’t really advisable as there would be scarring and sometimes the plates need taking out.
    Went to GP for second oppinion / explanation to help me understand…. Apparently i have crepising (sure i have spelt that wrong!) in my shoulder, little nodules of bone kinda makes a cracking sound when i move it now… Lucky enough i have two lumps and a ridge where i broke my bone on a diagonal! anyway, my GP referred me to the physio,as i was complaining of aching muscles, they can not do anything about the bone obviously but they can help you feel some relief with muscular aches and pains. My physio said she raely saw people with broken clavicle, only usually when things had gone wrong- often after plating! She did say to help ease an aching shoulder, as well as gentle excerises that they give you, to get someone to rub round your shoulder blade with an ice cube. It does work!
    I still do not have the full range of movement in my shoulder, taking off a jumper still seems to make me look like Houdini. I have a vist to the specalist in 3 weeks, i just want to know now if, the slight pain will alway be there and never go away – in which case i’ll just get on with things- but i don’t want to jepadise any chance i may have of it fixing properly. Watch this space.
    For those wondering how long it takes – well i think that’s an individual case thing. (i know that’s not helpful when you are sat there in week 2 of your break desperate for information) When i went back to work, i found loads of people who wanted to talk to me about their experiences, one who had fixed in 6 weeks and another who took 7 months to heal (a road cyclist who’d broken his collar bone in 3 places and when he felt ready to go back to work got in his car tried to take the hand break off and managed to rebreak his bone!)
    Got back on the horse yesterday, who was responsible for the accident- he seems to have forgotten.

63. Stephanie Says:
    June 7th, 2005 at 12:52 pm

    It’s official, I’m healing! Four weeks after the crunch heard on the rugby pitch I went back to my doctor, got some x-rays and found that my bones are joining up. He made me lift my arm above my head, something I couldn’t even know I could do without mind altering pain. We also discussed the fact that having a figure 8 splint while out at the bar can lead people on. You stand there, shoulders back, chest out and then when someone tries to hug you, playfully knock into you or something else you freak out and scream, “I have a broken collar bone, don’t touch me!” Not that this happenned to me or anything. Ok, 4 weeks down, 4 weeks to complete recovery. Good luck everyone!

64. Ron Says:
    June 8th, 2005 at 12:27 pm

    Hi Hans,
    I was sorry to hear that you undergoing painful physio. I know that all of us with a serious clavicle injury have had more than our share of sharp, nasty pain. In my case calcification has set in and I have take 2 pain killers in 10 days. However there is concern about my injury. I visited my attorney yesterday and he read aloud from several surgeon’s reports. The pieces are out of alignment and I believe that only using pins now will allow them to line up. Also the report mentioned “fibroid” although I did not understand that.
    (Edit – Hans) Fibroid = “Composed of or resembling fibers or fibrous tissue”
    Of course I have been encouraged to use the shoulder a lot and that means that pieces have moved more. There are two fractures so I presume that means 3 pieces although I thought there were 4 pieces. I may have mentioned in a previous letter how similar my injury is to Lyndsey’s and yet how different our treatment has been. She kept her arm in a sling, then had surgery 2 weeks later. It is almost as if there is a “British school” of treating this injury and a “Canadian school”. I phoned an Ortho’s office here to see what the wait time was for an appointment. The nurse in the office said that the surgeon in question simply did not do clavicle surgery.
    I realise that there can be serious problems in inserting a plate.
    1. Then there can be an increase in pain from it.
    2. There is an increased chance of infection and of vascular problems.
    A disconnected clavicle is a unusual injury. My GP and Occupational Therapist had never dealt with it before. Of course a simply clavicle break is much more common and usually much easier to treat.
    I have a 5 lb weight limit for the arm. I just made a fairly heavy casserole. I may have exceeded 5 pounds with the affected arm in putting it into the oven. Oh well. The function of the arm is very good for strength and mobility. I can place the arm normally behind my back and elevate to 65 degrees from the horizontal. In fact use of the arm is almost back to pre-injury level except that I now have a weight restriction. Still I know that a lack of healing in the shoulder cannot be ignored. So we shall see what happens.
    I am interested in knowing how your injury happened. Was it mountain biking down a trail, or was it in the city?
    (Edit – Hans) My recent accident was from a MTB crash.
    On April 4 I was cycling along a boulevard when a car door flung open and I had nowhere to go. It happened so very quickly. I had numerous injuries but all have disappeared except the clavicle injury. The motorist was given a ticket since the liability was clearly hers. As far as the insurance goes there is no question about who is at fault. Still there is a saying “The graveyards and hospitals are filled with people who were in the right in traffic.”
    The woman has my address from the accident report but she has never written to apologize. What a difference! I have to live with this for the rest of my life and she has an increase in her insurance rates. Some difference!
    Obviously I get depressed at times, I would not be human if I did not. Just one small example of the change in lifestyle. I used to occasionally use the Internet terminal at the library. Well I tried it yesterday and found that keyboard is so high up that using it irritated my arm and shoulder. So I won’t use that again. How do you deal with depression?
    (Edit – Hans) I’ve been lucky and haven’t had to deal with it. Maybe others will have suggestions.
    Sometimes I beat up myself for cycling on the streets when I knew that an accident for a cyclist could turn very ugly indeed. I always realised that the lack of protective clothing meant that it would take little for a cyclist to become seriously injured. Now I know that first hand. A few weeks before the accident I had a close call when I made a mistake, got into the wrong lane and was almost destroyed by a double-Decker bus. The incident shook me badly and should have been a wake-up call to understand how deadly is could be to cycle in the city. That losing focus for just a moment could have deadly consequences. However I was too arrogant to reach the logical conclusion. How I have paid for that lack of insight!
    Victoria, BC has a strong culture of cycling. It has the highest percentage of the population who cycle of any Canadian city. The weekly newspaper just had 2 articles about cycling in the city and the government offers its employees inducements to cycle to work. Sadly the motorists are particularly slow witted and unpredictable. Despite this culture there are only a couple of bike pathways for recreation, none which can be used to go from A to B. Some of the streets are dangerously narrow.
    I spoke to a fellow recently who has a wife and baby. He was recounting several close calls he has had. I tried to convince him that it was not fair to his family to keep cycling to work when he could use the bus. For example one day he was cycling in the normal position on the right when a car in front suddenly turned right, leaving him with nowhere to go. His bike slid under the car but he was unhurt. I said “For God’s sake learn from what happened to me! You just have to have one close call that turns tragic to be hurt for life. Think of your family and where they would be if you became disabled.” Of course he did not listen.
    That’s the trouble. Once so many of us get into urban cycling we think that we have experience and that serious injury cannot happen to us. Well, it sure can. Ironically I had been cycling fairly slowly as a safety measure in the weeks before the accident. . However I was going down a gently descending hill and let the hill carry my bike instead of braking. It is amazing how much damage can happen to a cyclist at a fairly slow speed.
    It is strange that there is no protective clothing for cyclists. For example what about wearing a Kevlar vest? Would a vest that protects against bullets also protect against impact in a cycling accident? I am not aware of anyone trying to develop such shock-proof clothing.
    (Edit – Hans) There is gear that is sold for downhill or extreme riding. It’s similar to motocross gear but lighter weight.
    I want to end by thanking you for starting the forum It is a great asset to have a place where one can share experiences and learn more about conditions like disconnected clavicle.
    Finally, I was wearing a good helmet when the accident happened. Even so I had a severe concussion. Without the helmet well…

65. Cherie Turner Says:
    June 9th, 2005 at 6:07 am

    Hi All,
    Broken Clavicle here. almost 3 weeks now. Lots of back pain and shoulder pain that seem to be residual of my bone not healing straight, we will see in a few days w/ follow up xray.
    I want to suggest this brace http://www.shouldersback.net/. It may not be for use the first week, but it is definitely more comfortable than the traditional fig of 8 brace. I recommend it to anyone who has a broken clavicle…and you will look somewhat normal too!

66. Bubba Says:
    June 10th, 2005 at 7:51 am

    Sure is nice to know one is not alone, although this is not a club I would recommend that everyone join.
    May 25th – I went high side dump off my mt. bike and collided with Earth. I don’t think it moved, but my collar bone did.
    I broke it about as far out as you can on the middle third..borderline distal. I think I’m lucky because the gap between the bones is about 1-2mm.
    I am wearing a figure 8 harness, but may use the sling with it. I notice that I get pain in the trap muscle, kneck, pectoral and the opposite muscle on the back. I think the impact transferred to rib cartilige and/or muscles/tendons. I get a lot of muscle aches depending on position. anyone shed some light on this?
    Of course, the timing on this could not be worse. Supposed to be in China now and have postponed for a month. That would be 5 1/2 weeks after the intial break. I got a sling/harness 6 days after breaking it.
    So, I know most are not doctors but seasoned veterans of this injuries, what do y’all think about me travelling 5 1/2 weeks after breaking? I get pic’s of this on Monday to see the progress and understand that is what will dictate my ability to do anything.
    I look forward to all replies and hope everyone that has posted a story about their own break is healing well.
    Best Regards,
    Tim
    38yr old male.

67. Hans Says:
    June 10th, 2005 at 8:19 am

    Tim – Sorry to hear about your crash. Take a quick look at my other ‘collar bone’ entries that are linked at the top of the page. Your break is similar to the one I had but I had a larger gap. I was back on my bike a month later and touring Europe. So a quick recovery is possible.
    The muscle pain you are experiencing may be from bruising, strains, etc. from the accident. But some of it, such as in the opposite muscle on the back, is probably caused by compensation for the damage. The muscles opposite of an injury work to protect the injured site. This leads to muscle fatigue, soreness, tightness, etc.. I’m dealing with that now for a new shoulder injury.
    Hope you heal fast. Let us know how it goes.

68. Seth Wood in Bettendorf, iowa Says:
    June 15th, 2005 at 7:32 pm

    It sure is “nice” to hear of other broken clavicals…
    About 10 years ago, I was on my 3 wheeled scooter….and somehow, I fell over sideways on my left arm/should/clavical and proceeded to break my clavical with the end of it protruding up thru the skin, not out just a big hump
    Doctors said, I could get operated on and get back ~ 75% of range of motion…..and being on Medicare it was decided not to be done by doctors for whatever reason…..
    About 3 years prior to that clavical break. I had a severe head injury from a motocycle accident, which made my WHOLE left side (arm and leg) paralyzed-like. I’ve learned to live on my own with that….for those 10 years..
    Then a few days ago, I stumbled and fell on that broken clavical
    Hurt like a ^&^!. So I got it xrayed again, only to show the gap between the break was still the same, only gap was farther apart. being “lucky” to live with this condition 10 years prior
    life for me has changed little for me….I live with that constant ache…..Thank god for Ibuprofin!! lol

69. Lisa Jones Says:
    June 18th, 2005 at 11:42 pm

    What a help to find this web site. My son of 10, yesterday broke his right clavical. He was playing football,fell,and screaned in pain and proceeded to throw up and become pale and white. We took him to the hospital were they x-rayed him. The bone has completely snapped in half. The pain he is suferring is heartbraking for any Mother to watch. He has been given a figure 8 brace to wear, however he is having trouble keeping a straight alignment. He is taking Ibuprofin to ease the pain but it still seem to be uncomfortable for him. He was due to play in a football tornement on the 21st and 22nd, so for him this is even more upsetting. My concern is that the bones will not join correctly as he keeps leaning to the side of the pain and i keep telling him that he must sit up straight otherwise it will permanently deformed. Is this normal in the first days to have such servere pain. The pressure the brace applies seems to be making him worse and I am suppose to tighten it in 2 days time. There appears to be no sign of bruising or swelling. It is also frustrating for him that he has to keep still, as like most boys at his age, he is normally very active. The Hospital said it should take around 4 weeks to heal but after reading these letters it sounds as though it could be longer. Any suggestion,s to cheer him up would be much appreciated! He can’t even play on the playstation at the moment!

70. josh Says:
    June 26th, 2005 at 12:04 pm

    i broke mine at the state judo tournament, dang my final match of my high school “career”. it sucks so bad, i can run and stuff again but i still can’t do judo cause it’ll break if i fall on it still.

71. Conrad Says:
    June 27th, 2005 at 8:09 am

    I broke my left clavicle last week doing a hard 110 mile bike
    ride on my Quintana Roo Kilo tri bike. Was only 4 weeks away
    from my taper for the Full Vineman iron distance triathlon.
    Basically, hit a “pot-hole” at 33 mph which threw me off the aerobars, and the bike. Landed on my left side. Severe rash
    all along the left side. Very badly bruised left hip; lucky I did not break the pelvis. Also wrecked my helmet. Probably would have died without it.
    Using a figure 8 plus a sling. Pain is not too bad. Except this morning. Because I have gone from extreme physical activity (trained 15-28 hours/week) to basically nothing, I have
    been getting those severe calve cramps that wake you up and force you to get out of bed to stand and stretch. Well, I forgot about the left collarbone and put full pressure to my
    left arm to get up out of bed. That hurt!
    My fracture is a middle third, comminuted (a couple extra fragments). Did take some ibuprofen the first couple days.
    Now, just a few glasses of red wine and maybe a couple asperin
    before I sleep.
    My season is over. Can’t swim for 12 weeks I figure. Can’t
    do push-ups for the same I guess. Won’t attempt to ride the
    trainer until the rash heals up (very bad on the shoulder and
    hip and knee). Have been walking. Got hurt last Tuesday.
    Didn’t walk the next day, but every day thereafter. 13 miles
    thur-Sun. Going to walk every day this week and shoot for 30.
    I wear the arm sling for addtional support to the figure 8 for
    this walking. This is keeping me sane. Will plan now for
    the Las Vegas Marathon December 4th and shoot to go sub 3:30:00. I do better with goals.

72. Justine Says:
    June 28th, 2005 at 6:43 am

    Well, let me just start off by saying that I feel much better after visiting this site and seeing how many of you are in the same boat as I am. Good luck to all of you still healing and I appreciate hearing from those of you who have already recovered because you are an inspiration to me. So last week while playing in a soccer game I was taken out from behind and landed the wrong way, breaking my collar bone. I had never broken a bone before and it was very painful, but the emotional pain was far greater and no pain killer, no matter how strong, could ever take it away. My team and I have been training for 6 months for one of the biggest and most important, not to mention by far the biggest recruiting tournament of the year. I am going into my senior year and coaches from all of the schools I am considering playin for were planning on using this tournament as their deciding factor. So if i played well, things were looking good. I basically just cried and was in a state of depression for the first 3 day. All i kept thinking about were the hours of training, running mile after mile and sprint after sprint, never going out with my friends on friday or saturday nights because I had to wake up at 6 the next morning to drive and hour and a half to practice or to a game. I’m getting better I suppose. I have started riding the bike because I was told that I could and I’m looking to come back strong and just trying to stay positive. My team leaves on Wednesday for the Regional Tournament and I will certianly be there cheering them on. If they win, we will go on to advance to nationals and if all goes well I will be able to play by then! If anyone has any good exercises or healing tips please let me know! Thanks!

73. Joe Says:
    July 2nd, 2005 at 10:47 am

    I hit some railroad tracks at a wrong angle and flew off my bike last week. This broke the middle of my right collar bone. Everyone in this form says they are wearing a Figure 8 brace, this is what they gave me, a clavicle splint, same thing?
    http://www.hely-weber.com/product.php?id=83
    They said to wear it constantly for 6 weeks. Is that the same advice as everyone else? I went to work a couple days later and the Clavicle Splint is pretty bulky under my suit. Anyone know of any thinner splints that would work better while wearing a suit?
    I am a week into this thing and doing well. I can dress, type, drive with two hands, comb my hair, etc!. did some interval jogging on the treadmill yesterday. The pain is focused on the break area, and only bothers me when I stretch too far.
    What about a TENS unit? Anyone ever try one? I have one around the house and asked the doctor about using it, he didn’t seem to think there would be any harm in trying it. So I attached the electrodes around broken collar bone. Don’t know if it does any good but the electrical impulses seem soothing.
    http://www.tensunits.com/
    The “theory” is that when the body suffers trauma, the muscles tighten to immobilize the injured area. This muscle tightening impairs circulation to the injury site, which decreases the blood supply to the affected area and diminishes the healing process. TENS therapy is suppose to help stimulate circulation and aid in healing. Since I already had a TENS unit from a previous ailment, I figured I would try it.
    This was 5 days after the accident, so I have only been on this TENS stimulation for two days so it is too early to tell if it is doing any good. However, the pain doesn’t seem to be as sharp and I have a bit more mobility, but this might have been the case anyway with or without the device. Anyone else ever try a tens unit?

74. Tom C. Says:
    July 2nd, 2005 at 2:22 pm

    I crashed my bike and broke my right clavicle 3 hrs ago. Kaiser was pretty fast (1.5 hrs). No Jack Danial sfor me… Vicaden is the answer. Thanks for the info. on treatment!

75. Chad Says:
    July 8th, 2005 at 7:07 pm

    I can’t tell you all how great this site has been! I broke my clavical in a July 3rd Jet Skiing incident on Lake Erie in Buffalo, NY. There are three distinct breaks and much bone displacement. I was told originally I would need surgery without a doubt. The P.A. I saw said it was the worst he has ever seen! Went to an Ortho on July 5th and was told no surgery needed. I am only in a sling and I was told (by my Ortho) that a figure 8 would do me no good. (He said it was because of the bone displacement) Any ideas on this? My real question however, is on the healing process. I was back to work on July 6th with some pain but nothing unbearable. I am completely off perscription meds (Lortab) as of July 7th. I have some range of motion but very limited. It is difficult to put on shirts! The pain all along has been very manageable. I am a competitive rifle shooter and have a important shoot (to me anyway!) the last week of September. I am 30 years old. Being right handed and having the break on the right side is the obvious problem! Is there any chance I will be able to compete. I will have had 11 weeks of healing without practice, and 9 weeks if I allow for the average 2 weeks of shooting I would need to prepare. Has anyone out there had any experience with this? The recoil of the rifle is my concearn. Will the calcium actually speed up the healing process? I was told your body needs a specific ammount of time regardless of the ammount of calcium you pump into your body. I am also now curious about the TENS Unit and would love to hear some input on that as well! This site has been so much help and nothing less than a complete inspiration!! Thank you all so much for your stories and advice! I also need to admit that this process is nearly impossible without the love and care of someone close to you! Aimee has done everything short of certain bathroom necessities to make this easier on me and I owe her everything! Love you Aim!

76. Hans Says:
    July 8th, 2005 at 11:36 pm

    Chad – Wearing a figure-8 helps to keep your shoulders in a correct posture. This helps the broken bones mend and aligned for this posture. Without the figure-8, the injured shoulder tends to be pulled forward and in. This may lead to worse alignment when the bones fuse together. I’m not sure how it would help if the bones are so broken that they will not fuse together. But, it is possible for a fibroid connection to form instead. This is fibrous tissue that forms around the broken ends and attempts to hold them together. A connection of this type will not be solid like fused bone, but it will add some strength. So for this case it would also make sense wearing a figure-8.
    I wore a figure-8 and I personally know others that have. All of us have had good recoveries. So I would recommend wearing one, especially during the first week or two, when the body works hardest to fuse the breaks. But, as always, get the opinion of your doctor if it will be a problem.
    Oh, and you should be fully healed by the time your shoot comes along. I was back on my bike and riding in Europe a month after my first break.
    Hans

77. suzanna degazon suzy Says:
    July 9th, 2005 at 3:51 pm

    oh my god you have had me in great pain from laughimg i broke my clavical 7 hours ago in a competition and yes it is definately a two armed world. i am an ultra triathlete and have to travel on 2 planes on tuesday back to puerto rico!!i do ultraman hawaii in november i have done this 7 times now a clavical world for a few weeks, please keep in touch as i would love to have a training program..thank you suzy degazon

78. David Says:
    July 13th, 2005 at 11:30 am

    Good to hear others are sharing my pain. I’m 2.5 weeks in from a right clavicle break from mtn biking. Here’s the irony: I’m planning to do a 24 hr mtn bike race labor day weekend to raise money for our local emergency ward. I hope to be healed up by then but it’s not looking likely. Thx for the website H+L.

79. Tom Says:
    July 14th, 2005 at 11:41 am

    A relief to find this site!! Im 10 weeks into a lateral third left clavicle fracture. had an xray today and no signs of healing (although this time was a different doctor, who didnt even show me the xray!). My shoulders now freezing up so am having physio – i think by keeping it still so long i may have made the situation worse? Doctor said that cos it isnt painful when he applied pressure to the site i should try and forget its broken (easy for him to say) and do as much as possible. He then said make an appointment for 3 months time!!! There is no way i am waiting another 3 months without any idea of my progress – i got him down to 2 months, but even that seems a long time (Im training to be a vet, so i cant do my work while its like this..).
    Hope you all heal soon,
    Tom

80. Hans Says:
    July 14th, 2005 at 12:52 pm

    Tom – If you are that far along after the break and there’s no healing, then your bones probably won’t reconnect/fuse. I have friends with clavicles that have not reconnected and they are fine. If you are not experiencing pain or problems because of the disconnect then you might be fine leaving it as-is. Listen to your doc(s) and your physical therapist. If they think there’s a problem then act on it.
    Keeping you shoulder still for a long period of time can lead to a frozen socket/shoulder. My doc made sure I moved my shoulder and arm during the time I was healing from my break. But he limited the range and types of movements. Also, the first two weeks are the most critical time for the bones to find themselves and begin healing and reconnecting. That’s not a good time to be moving the shoulder. Bending your elbow is fine though.
    My guess is that actively doing physical therapy is your best bet now. It’s tough but stick with it.

81. Tom Says:
    July 15th, 2005 at 8:47 am

    thanks hans,
    just been given my physio exercises – 11 exercises to be done 10 times each every 1-2 hours for the next 10 days!!! i’m currently not able to lift my arm above 90 degrees. not due to pain, just physically impossible… think this could take a while!!
    thanks again for your comments,
    tom

82. Carolyn Faubert Says:
    July 16th, 2005 at 11:04 am

    Hans,
    Thanks for beginning this site. I Am a 59 yr. old female who broke the right clavicle in a car accident on July 1st, 2005. The recommendations and insights to everyones’ injuries have been both helpful and encouraging. One aspect that I would like to share is that if anyone seems to be having a great deal of trouble trying to get in and out of bed comfortably; try arranging a comfotable chair with support pillows for your elbow, arms and neck and use a comfortable foot stool along with this get-up and sleeping in this situation has worked for me. I have been sleeping like this for two weeks, of course, vicadin has helped a little, too.
    My Orthopedic Dr. recommended a sling and swath; but I felt that my injured shoulder (clavicle) was slouching and he gave me a script for the “figure of eight brace” but I am having a difficult time trying to buy one. Does anyone have a supplier or reference for me to contact?
    Thanks to all for sharing info -single handed typing isn’t easy!!
    Carolyn

83. Gord Says:
    July 17th, 2005 at 12:40 am

    Interesting website. My story and suggestions:
    I was just flying down a rather easy trail on my mountain bike when I noticed some black berry bush branches stretched across the trail. I did NOT want to get scratched by thorns, so I made a little dodge. Unfortunately, there seemed to be a lack of trail off to the right. My front wheel disappeared, and I was catapulted to the ground left shoulder and head first. I was sure I had suffered my first bone break at 39, and the next day, the X-ray confirmed a mid-shaft fracture “in good position”. Compared to others here, I don’t think I have had the worst of it — my pain was manageable with Advil, and I never had to use the Tylenol 3s I had. I went to work the next morning.
    I am a fairly serious triathlete, so my main concern is to be able to swim without pain or discomfort.
    The ER doc said I could have a sling if I wanted, but it was up to me. I would heal anyway. A week later, my physio, a swimmer, and another doctor friend, also a swimmer, pretty-well demanded I get into a Clavical Splint. Their rational was that my collar bone would heal in a longer and better position, and that would be better for swimming.
    Both doctors also recommended a homeopathic Prep called “Trameel” with an ingredient called ‘Arnica’. Supposed to help bones heal faster — either that or make money for someone, but I figured it was worth a shot.
    Also — I find the ‘Natural’ Keyboard I have at home is way less uncomfortable than the regular keyboard I have at work.

84. Richard Says:
    July 17th, 2005 at 3:23 pm

    Well done Hans! I’ve found it quite comforting to read everyone’s adventures and how they are healing and building themselves back up. I’m in my forties and an avid cyclist. While commuting to work three days ago I hopped a sidewalk curb onto the pavement while traveling at a good clip. When my front tire came down with my weight above it, my Zoom handlebar snapped completely off on the left side of my bike and I pile drove my left shoulder and body into the pavement (cracked the helmet too). Ouch. I was closer to home than work and walked back home with the bike and got my wife to take me to the hospital for x-rays and a sling. The break is dead center on the clavicle and the bones are overlapping. I did not find the pain too bad and was at work within three hours of the accident. I’ve been wearing the arm sling to bed and this has helped me also to remain sleeping on my back. I’m only taking advil twice a day as well as a multivitamin and about 1000 mgs of calcium. To assist the healing process and align the bones I bought a figure eight sling yesterday ($25) and am going to give that a go until this mends. Keeping my fitness up has been a key concern (four years ago I fractured my femur while cycling and it took me about a year to rebuild from that one). In the meantime I’ll use the gym exercycle daily and will see what I can do with the leg press to maintain my lower body. What did you do to maintain your upper body while you healed?
    Thanks for all the info. Cheers!
    Richard

85. Hans Says:
    July 17th, 2005 at 5:13 pm

    Carolyn – I don’t have a source for a figure 8 sling. I received mine from my ortho doc. Note that Richard above got one for $25 somewhere. So they aren’t expensive.
    Richard – Did you get your figure 8 online or through your doc? As for maintaining your upper body I would recommend you give it a rest for a couple of weeks while you are healing. It’s very easy to strain your injury and hinder your recovery during this time. And that’s not what you want to do. After a couple of weeks you should be able to start doing some upper body workouts.

86. Richard Says:
    July 17th, 2005 at 8:11 pm

    Hi Hans:
    I phoned up a couple of my local “Medical & Surgical Supply” stores in Edmonton (Canada) and just asked if they had any ‘Figure of Eight slings for a fractured clavicle’. I chose a store close to home. When I went in, they measured the distance from the middle of my scapula down to the armpit while a figure eight sling was hanging over my shoulder – then they chose one model that was the best size for me and even fitted it (I walked out wearing it). (note of interest: infants can get fractured/dislocated clavicles during delivery and will often be outfitted with figure eights – they come that small).
    There are quite a few on line stores listed on the internet selling figure of eights (here is a model similar to the one I purchased: http://www.medmarketplace.com/support,-four-way-clavicle-str-6766.html) – try searching under “Medical Supply” or “clavicle strap” (here’s an example of another one I found: http://www.medsupplyco.com/Products/ProductDetails.cfm?ProductNumber=SCO1582UN&CFID=9304250&CFTOKEN=95782180). The figure 8s (and most other slings) come in various sizes and styles so make sure you read all the info before ordering. Prices range from under ten bucks to over a hundred depending on the bells and whistles, and how long you expect to wear one (comfort/gel straps).
    Good advice about the upper body work. That makes sense, think I’ll wait until I do a follow-up with my doctor before I dive back into my regular fitness routine. (I can hear him lecturing me now – Now if I would only Listen to him).
    Cheers!
    Richard

87. Tabitha Says:
    July 19th, 2005 at 8:02 pm

    Great Website! Two days ago my husband had an accident while riding his ATV, he broke his right clavical, its really bad. He showed up at the front door, and his shoulder was completely compacted into the side of his chest. (he also broke 3 ribs, sprained his neck & concussion) When the doc saw the xray, the first thing he said was “lets get you booked for surgery!” The bone was sticking out of his shoulder, the two pieces seperated & overlapping by a good 2 inches. He’s booked for August 3rd. Right now he’s in the most intense pain ever, and he’s had plenty of broken bones before! He’s drugged up on vicodin and percocets(sp?) He says those are the best. Like some of the others people mentioned, he is getting an occassional sharp stabbing pain in his arm. I really feel for him. Not only has he “lost his arm” but his dignity too! I had to bathe him today.lol For better or for worse, eh? I even had to dress him after his bath. One thing though, I think they gave him the wrong size 8-sling, as its fully tightened, and is still not giving the best support. He’s fairly broad shouldered, and they gave him a large, but I think maybe a med would have been better. They didn’t measure. He hasn’t left the recliner since it happened, thats the only place keeping him in a comfortable position. Well, sorry to ramble, but I thought maybe you all would appreciate a second hand account of what its like. After all, I am doing everything for him-but very gladly. He’d do the same for me! (hopefully he never has to. ) Good luck to you all.

88. Tracie Says:
    July 21st, 2005 at 12:06 pm

    It’s great to commiserate. It’s a strangely isolating experience being home with a broken collarbone. Not sick, not disabled enough to be housebound, not able enough to do normal activities – strange space to be in. I hate it, but know that I have already gained a much greater appreciation for my body.. I feel elation at the thought of being completely healed again and hey, I’ve learned that i can drive a stick-shift with only one arm! I am, however, just about at the end of my rope with doctors and x-ray technicians (non-responsiveness – maybe there really isn’t an answer to the question WHEN?!? HOW LONG?!) after 5 weeks with a broken collarbone. I’m a 46 year old female -broke my collarbone in a dirt biking accident. I wasn’t going that fast, but WAS subconsciously trying to imitate my much more experienced partner popping wheelies on his motorcycle through mud puddles. For some inexplicable reason, I hit the front brakes in the middle of a mud slick – with a big rut in it- and was thrown like a missile about 3 metres off my bike. I landed on my right side (torn tendons, bruised ribs, foot and hip) but broke the collarbone on my left side. I lay with my face in the dirt, helmet full of mosquitoes, for about a half hour while my boyfriend raced back for the car and trailer (I remember when he reached his hand out to me – ooookay! get up now! AS IF!) I spent 6 hours in emergency (morphine drip!!!), and was sent home with a sling, a prescription for percocet and very few instructions – i.e. how do I get dressed? take a shower? sleep? when can I resume normal activities? After weeks of adapting to things like washing dishes with one arm, playing the piano with one arm (I can just sort of ping the lower keys with my left hand – which is kind of cool), I’ve learned to cope remarkably well, but have been given no information as to when i can take the sling off. I stopped taking pain killers after the first week and the pain has diminished exponentially from week to week. This week – week 5 – I feel ‘almost normal’ and am back in the gym doing low impact aerobics (no problem!! tons of fun and piles of sympathy!!! ) I walk about 5 km every day. I wonder if anyone has an answer to this question. We are planning a camping trip to Arizona, Colorado, Utah (nixed the original dirt biking and/or mountain biking plan) in a few weeks. The last x-ray I had was at 4 weeks and apparently showed ‘no healing’ – which seems crazy because I feel SO much better! Anyway, I won’t have another x-ray until late August, but am going on vacation anyway. If my arm FEELS okay, and I can lift it at least perpendicular to my body, does that mean that I’m almost healed? I can now sleep sort of half rolled onto one side, I can do sit-ups, lunges, squats, walk forever and am relatively pain free. Can I crawl into a tent, hike in the mountains, carry a backpack and do normal camping type stuff? What are the chances after 5 weeks – if I feel okay!and I do – that the bone will break again or I’ll do further damage? Apparently it was a clean (but good) break. I’m scared stiff to re-injure the bone as I’ve heard lots of stories, from well meaning friends, along the lines of ‘well i thought i was fine.. and then boom.. back to square one’
    Any thoughts or suggestions? I’m not sure I could stand the thoughts of another 6-8 weeks with a sling.
    P.S. Tabitha – your husband is lucky. The pain from a broken collarbone is nasty. I will never be able to thank my daughter and boyfriend enough for everything they’ve done for me these last weeks – helping me to undress, take a shower, wash my feet, tie my shoes… You know it’s true love when you ask your boyfriend to please help you pull up your pants and he smiles and says “Of course dear!”

89. Hans Says:
    July 21st, 2005 at 5:36 pm

    Tracie – If you are that far along after the accident and the broken collar bone still hasn’t fused then I’m guessing it won’t. It’s possible that your body is forming fibrous tissue around the break. That happened with mine and it helped to stablize the bone. In fact, I was riding my bike around Europe a month later without any problems.
    Some of the other problems you are having, such as range of motion in the arm, might be caused by more than just the collar bone. You might have done some soft tissue damage. Have you gone to a physical therapist yet? If not then I highly recommend that you go. Find one that understands sports related injuries. The one I have been seeing has helped tremendously and given me more information than my orthopedist.
    As for backpacking? Well, check with your doctor and/or P.T. person. Describe how good a backpack you have and how much weight you will be carrying. Your friends are correct about trying too much too soon. You also have the option of testing your significant other “Honey, since I can’t carry anything… would you mind?” :’)

90. kool Says:
    July 21st, 2005 at 10:57 pm

    I’m glad that I can read about other’s experiences fromt his site… I like to share my own experience..
    I broke my collar bone on 29th may in a charity ride (on a bicycle, going down slope, lost balance – I am a beginner in cycling). Like Carl (May 21), the x-ray showed the clavicle in a “z” position, but didn’t see any TCM doctors. I saw 4 othopathedic surgeons instead, 2 of them suggested surgery. Reason for surgery – my shoulder would be shorter and i would experience some restricted movements in sports like swimming free style.
    I opted for natural healing and I am into my 8th week. I am still experience lot aches and discomfort. It is worst than the initial 4 weeks. All the doctor did was to give me more pain killers. Pain has been a part of the whole process since day 1. Friends with the same injury recovered within 8 weeks.
    My physio therapist confirmed that on top of the broken clavicle, i had a sprained elbow (same side – left), which explained why I experience pain when I moved my arm. She is more helping than the doctor. she explained concepts, what to expect and what I could do to ease the pain.. (using heat pack)
    I will be seeing my doctor on 2 Aug. I was told that if there is a non-union of the bone, I have to go under the knife. Till then, there is nothing I could not about it..

91. Tracie Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 3:59 am

    That makes sense Hans- the fibrous tissue thing, but the idea of the bone not actually fusing freaks me out . I have, in fact, been to a physiotherapist, but for my other non-shoulder related injuries on my other side. He was much more helpful than my doctor, in fact, and gave me some very precise and good exercises to help my leg/hip along. His advice re: the collarbone, was to come back when the bone was 80% healed (fused?) and then we could start doing some exercises. I’m fed up with my doctor at the moment – she ordered the x-rays 2 weeks ago, then went on vacation so i couldn’t get the results until this week. When I called to get the results, the receptionist told me that, yes, the results had come in, then proceeded to read them to me over the phone. “X-ray shows fractured clavicle” – no kidding. THen she said, well it’s only been 3 weeks – when in fact it had been 5. I don’t think either my doctor or receptionist understands how critical it is for an active person to be given the green light to go ahead and join the land of the living again. Their attitudes were cavalier- and in fact my doctor hasn’t even seen the x-rays; the radiologist sent her a FAX with the ‘results’. My theory is that no one has examined the x-rays to determine the extent of healing… (I live in Canada – we are currently undergoing a sort of ‘health care crisis’.. too few doctors/under funding in hospitals/labs etc.) Anyway,fused bones makes sense. Think I’ll go back to see the physio guy. I can’t really tell him anything re: bone healing, but I would assume he’s knowledgable enough to not suggest anything that would injure a possibly-non-healed bone? Do you think I should take the sling off to start strengthening the arm/shoulder?

92. Tracie Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 4:02 am

    I mean NON fused bones – but fibrous tissue – makes sense..

93. Tom Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 6:39 am

    Hi,
    Am now 11 weeks in to a broken clavicle and no healing on xray… can lift my arm to horizontal sideways and almost straight forward but thats it. My advice is to use a sling if it helps the pain (maybe the first couple of weeks) but then try and move your shoulder to stop it seizing up and making matters worse!!
    People have said that after around 8 weeks if not fused it probably wont ever on this site, but my doc showed me a study with % fractures healed at 6, 12 and 24 weeks, and it does seems that the majority of fractures not completely fused at 12 weeks will by 24 weeks. But thats startying to feel like a long, long time!! You can see a table of results here: http://www.ejbjs.org/cgi/content/full/86/7/1359/DC1 . (sorry, dont know how to post it as a link!!). Reading the abstract may help to. Its not possible to read the whole study without subscribing though. hope this helps people!

94. Tom Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 6:42 am

    forgot to ask this: do people feel the fracture site ‘moving’ on the way to healing? when i lie down the site seems to bend quite a lot. it would be nice to hear that that happened to people who went on to heal!!

95. Terry Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 12:22 pm

    Helpful site!
    I broke my collar bone on July 13 playing Ultimate Frisbee…told myself no more layouts but couldn’t resist. According to the X-ray report, there was no displacment but when I’m verticle(standing/sitting), I can feel the breakage point(large bump) sticking out under my skin. When I lie down, this bump goes away. Does this make sense? I can also feel the fracture site moving when walking or other movements. Doctor has me wearing a sling and I’m cocerned that I should be wearing a figure 8 brace like others have mentioned.

96. Terry Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 12:45 pm

    Any tips for sleeping? After about 3 hours of lying down, my lower back is killing me and I have to get up. Tried putting a pillow behind my knees which helps a bit.

97. Tracie Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 4:26 pm

    My doctor told me that the figure 8 brace isn’t used anymore – that it’s antiquated and kind of like an instrument of torture – but others seem to swear by it. I’ve been in a sling for 5 weeks now and find that as you start to heal, it offers a lot of flexibility. I can lower it when I’m slouching (velcro) to read, tighten it to walk and do exercises. I sleep with piles of pillows – 3 under my head – one under my left arm (with the broken collarbone) to keep the arm level – another under my left leg and one more on the other side. That way I can’t inadvertently roll onto the bad side during the night. After 5 weeks I can almost roll over onto either side. Anyway, I hear that sleeping on your back is good for your complexion!

98. Terry Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 4:58 pm

    Tracie – do you sleep with your sling on? Where in Canada do you live? Just curious…I’m in Ottawa and the health care system needs help.
    I have an appointment with my family doctor on Wed and will ask him about the figure 8 brace. I find when I arch/pull back my shoulders, my broken collar bone seems to fall back in place and a figure 8 brace would help with that more than a sling. I guess there are 2 schools of thought on the figure 8 brace and the sling. Too bad not everyone is on the same page to avoid doubt and confusion.

99. Hans Says:
    July 23rd, 2005 at 11:25 pm

    Tracie – I think that you should follow the advice of a good physical therapist and/or a doctor that you trust regarding beginning arm/shoulder strengthening. Flexibility and strength are important but not at the risk of further injury while recovering. We can only offer suggestions but a qualified doctor and/or physical therapist that examines you will need to make the call. One important point, which Tom comments on after your comment, is the need to move the arm and shoulder so as not to “seize” up the joint. The is also known as a “frozen shoulder” (see http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/frozenshoulder/a/frozenshoulder.htm). Regarding your comment “My doctor told me that the figure 8 brace isn’t used anymore”. That appears to be an assumption in the medical community. But it isn’t true as is obvious from those that have been given figure-8 slings by their doctors. My doctor gave me one and I recovered quickly. If your doctor makes statements that Figure-8′s aren’t used anymore then he must be ignorant about clavicle breaks or is set on his/her ways or treatment.
    Tom – Thanks very much for that link to that informative document. After reading through the abstract and looking at the chart, there’s some important points to note: “the risk of nonunion was significantly increased by advancing age, female gender, displacement of the fracture, and the presence of comminution”. So there are some common conditions that can lead to a non-union. But, it good to see that there is a chance for a break to heal even after 24 weeks.
    Terry – “When I lie down, this bump goes away. Does this make sense?” Yes. The bump is formed at the union of the broken ends of the clavicle. The lump may go away with time.

100. Tracie Says:
     July 24th, 2005 at 4:27 am

     It baffles me how many conflicting opinions there are regarding the figure-8 sling and it distresses me to think that perhaps I should have had one all along. I was given a crappy (as in not very durable) sling from emergency the night of my accident and had to buy another better one myself – in fact the one I bought probably has a fit similar to the figure-8 as it has an additional strap around my waist and pulls my arm in snugly to my body. Both the doctor in emerg and my family doctor suggested the regular sling and there was never any mention of the figure-8 (except when I asked specifically). I have no doubt, as you suggest Hans, that my doctor is not very knowledgable about clavicle breaks. She’s been a great doctor (reasonably young – but not too young, attentive, very informed) but seems surprisingly ignorant in this case. That’s one reason why i’m on this website – trying to get as many different opinions as possible to weigh my options. I’ve actually learned more from this website than from my doctor and physiotherapist combined. Figue-8 slings make a lot of sense to me, especially in the initial healing stages since keeping the clavicle immobilized seems to be so important.
     Terry- I’d be interested to hear your doctor’s opinion regarding the figure-8. Maybe it’s a ‘Canadian thing’! Guelph – by the way – but I studied at Carleton… lived in Ottawa for many years. I remember our health care system pre: Mike HArris’ Conservatives, by the way. Yeah. a mess now.
     I sleep with my sling on – but after the first few weeks i started to loosen it at night so that I could straighten my arm out. My arm was so stiff before I started to do that; it felt like a lead pipe and was about as heavy as one too. So i would move the velcro down in order to straighten it, but keep the sling on, then pull the sling up snug when I had to get up. I have NO idea if this is recommended at all (did not move my arm at all initially.. it felt too scary).
     Hans, how far along were you when you started doing shoulder strengthening exercises? At what point did you start taking your arm out of the sling? I spent about 2 hours yesterday with my arm out of the sling. It seemed fine, but I’m sure I need to do more exercises as my shoulder feels pathetically weak. You mentioned that you were bike riding in Europe after 4 weeks, and I know that every case is individual, but were you actually able to ride normally at that point in time? I feel like getting on my bike (or dirt bike) right now would be scary. We’re going to Moab, Colorado, Arizona in 2 weeks time and I REALLY want to bring my mountain bike.For sure I will ask my physiotherapist as I realize that every case is individual (advancing age, female gender.. !) but I was in very good condition pre: break.
     4 weeks? bike riding? I will be at 7 weeks when we leave.
     I sound so desperate… sigh…

101. Hans Says:
     July 24th, 2005 at 9:08 am

     Tracie – It appears that most doctors consider broken clavicles “boring” and don’t spend much time, if any, learning how to treat them. They may be wonderful and knowledgeable doctors. But there is only so much they can know.
     Then there is the problem of finding a doctor that also understands the needs of an athlete and the impact the break will have on the patient. Again, that’s why I highly recommend seeking out a doctor that specializes in sports related injuries.
     “I sleep with my sling on – but after the first few weeks i started to loosen it at night so that I could straighten my arm out” – Flexing and using your elbow joint is important. My doctor recommended that almost from the start. Remove the arm from the sling and work the range of motion of the elbow but without moving the shoulder. Otherwise there is a chance of reducing mobility in your elbow. Then you will need physical therapy to regain the range.
     “how far along were you when you started doing shoulder strengthening exercises?” – It was wasn’t until at least two months before I was actively began using resistance to work my shoulder. Before then it was only range-of-motion exercises.
     “At what point did you start taking your arm out of the sling?” – As mentioned above, I would remove my arm from the sling periodically throughout the day and at night. I began doing this around the first week and increased the number of times farther along.
     “you were bike riding after 4 weeks but were you actually able to ride normally” – Yes, but my shoulder was still a little weak from the lack of use. I rode carefully and I wasn’t doing any extreme riding. I was also only my road bike and had to let my mountain bike take a vacation. But at that point I had a fairly solid clavicle and was quickly feeling better and better.
     I know how depressing it can be. Keep your head up. And remember, we are lucky because it’s curable! :’)

102. Phil Says:
     July 25th, 2005 at 11:32 am

     I will summarize a long saga. This year, at age 49 I fractured my clavicle skiing. I was told by the orthopedist at the slopes that it would heal on its own, and to let pain be my guide. Well there was plenty of pain and crepsis and it just did not seem any better after 6-8 weeks. I should have gotten a follow-up x-ray at that point, but since I was on Health-Net, harder than you think. After 3-4 months it still was hurting, so I had a follow-up x-ray and was told that the initial injury was more of a shatter than a break, there was a “non-union” of the bones, and that surgery was probably needed from the get-go. So now I am on a stimulator 24 hours a day for two more months. If the electric stimulation does not encourage bone growth, I will need an operation for pins, or have to live with it. So, I encourage all you out there to be careful with the injury and aggressive about seeking qualified medical advice.

103. Tabitha Says:
     July 25th, 2005 at 1:05 pm

     I have a question, I posted a week or so ago about my husband, he’s been told he’ll need surgery, either a rod placed in, or a metal plate. This will take plce on August 3rd, but since then I’ve heard a lot about the “serious risks” of surgery–was wondering what you all thought about this, and/or if any of you had any experience with it??

104. Joe Says:
     July 25th, 2005 at 7:40 pm

     I’m on my 3rd broken clavicle. The second time I broke it, over 20 years ago, I had to have it pinned, where they inserted a rod from one end of the bone to the other. Not a pleasant experience but probably necessary for it to heal properly. I was in the hospital for a few days but didn’t experience any complications from surgery and regained full use of the shoulder. Anytime you have surgery you are exposing yourself to certain risks. And if a bone graft is involved, then the risk becomes greater. I think much of the risk factor depends on your present state of health also. You just have to determine if the benefits outweight the risks. Don’t know what is going to happen this time, but I’m definitely starting to look at my surgery options. I did hear about one Orthopedist from Duke University that was using a slightly different procedure involving the use of 1 screw to bring both ends of the bone together without the need for bone grafting – something I’d like to avoid. Here’s a link to the article – http://dukemednews.duke.edu/global/print.php?id=2100. Hope all goes well with your husband’s surgery.

105. Tabitha Says:
     July 25th, 2005 at 8:09 pm

     Joe, Thanks a lot! I’ll pass this info on to my husband. I’m wondering whether we should get a second oppinion on the procedure before he goes in for it, just in case another doctor might have a better procedure to use, or at least just for reassurance. He’ll definately need surgery, but I want it to be as risk free as possible! Its really inportant to him to have full, ache-free use of his arm, especially since its the one he writes with! Right now its hanging about 3 inches lower than his left, and his whole body looks crooked! (of course that may also be due to the three broken ribs on the same side!) Anyways, we’ll definately ask about this type of repair! Thanks again.
     Tabitha

106. Rob Says:
     July 27th, 2005 at 7:15 am

     Wow we got some real experience here. I’m 45 physically active and am in great physical shape even if I say so myself. Over the past few months I’ve been experiencing a kind of ‘clicking’ sensation where my collar bone meets my left shoulder. This happens if I move my shoulder in a particular way. No pain just the occassional ‘niggle’.
     I have been ill this week and I’ve got Flu like symptoms where all my joints and muscles are seem to ache (knees, fingers, ribs, hips, back etc) along with a headache. Some parts of my body ache more than others from time to time. Anyway, this shoulder is more sensitive than usual and I feel this ‘clicking’ sensation even more now. I think there is some bone swelling but It’s hard to tell. If I sit quietly enough I can feel a needle like pain in the affected shoulder and it sometimes shoots down my arm. Hard to say exactly because most other places currently ache with shooting pains.
     “How did you damage yourself?” I hear you cry. It might have been when I did Jiu Jitsu (martial Arts). I did experience niggling sensation in my shoulder around last year summer. Mind you I felt a lot of niggles in other parts of my body after each training session because it was quite demanding. I did Jiu Jitsu this for a year until I broke my leg during a wrestling match last summer and I haven’t been back since but I’ve been swimming and weight training instead since. Anyway this ‘clicking’ sensation does not stop me from doing my activities, it’s just more noticeable and a bit sore now.
     Any suggestions from you guys?

107. Joe Says:
     July 27th, 2005 at 12:38 pm

     Tabitha, from my experience, ALWAYS get a second opinion…paticularily if you’re looking at surgery. I’m going to see another Orthopedist in a couple of weeks to see what he has to say. I may even go seek a 3rd if I feel like he’s just giving me the standard answer.

108. Terry Says:
     July 27th, 2005 at 4:37 pm

     Went to see the doctor this morning about my 2 week old broken collar bone and asked him about the figure 8 brace(I was only wearing the sling)…he mentioned it was an old school method but couldn’t hurt. I wanted to try it so I dropped by an Orthopedic store after work and got fitted. I’m glad I did as the bump on my collar bone greatly diminished once the figure 8 brace was installed. The person at the store said that normal treatment would be wearing both figure 8 brace and a sling. Then after a couple of weeks, the sling comes off and wear just the figure 8…this should help minimize the bump and the droopy shoulder. He went to a clinic given by an Orthopedist who treats NHL hockey players and that’s what they recommended. I guess if its good enough for millionaire professional hockey players, its good enough for me. Only wish I found out about this 2 weeks ago
     Once again – thanks for the great info on this site!

109. Steve Mentzer Says:
     July 27th, 2005 at 6:20 pm

     July 27,2005
     I also stumbled on this site seeking info on broken collar bones. Mine happen last Saturday(July 23rd). Cycling accident. Left clavicle broken. No surgery required. After x-rays at emergency, was given a sling to wear. Now after visit to Orthopaedic clinic, figure 8 splint was substituted for sling. Was told it promoted better posture which facilitated better healing. Will go back in a week to x-ray affected shoulder. at my age (49) I’m not sure what results I will see. From other comments some people have made I don’t expect dramatic results.
     Hope to get back to the gym and at least get on a trainer and keep the legs in shape. BTW sleep has not yet been a problem. Maybe its the vicodan. HA!
     Great site and great info.
     Steve

110. Conrad Says:
     July 28th, 2005 at 8:17 am

     On June 27th I posted to the site. Just to re-cap, June 21st
     bike crash resulting in a left mid clavicle break, slight
     displacement, and comminuted. Plus severe abrasions on
     left shoulder and waist and hip and left knee. Plus trochanteric bursitis on the left hip. Thought my season was
     over.
     This will be encouraging to many. And I am not a kid, but
     a 45 year-old male.
     What has happened is a miracle. Of course I was approaching
     top form as a long-course triathlete when I went down and
     my nutrition has been since last November, absolute dead-on,
     ie. no processed or canned foods, just lots of vegtables and fruit, lean meat and limited amounts of good fats.
     Two days after I crashed, started walking, slowly and very
     short in distance. Every day. By day 5 and 6, walking 5 miles
     a day. Went and saw the Ortho on day 3 who gave me a figure 8
     strap to wear. Starting week 2, put my old Nishiki on a mag
     trainer. Rode 89 miles on the trainer that week and power-walked 24.8. Including two hard sessions on the computrainer
     with my girlfriend who is a USAT coach (she was using me!!!as
     a rabbit). During that week, on day 10, had a follow-up with
     the ortho. To me the x-ray looked worse than the first taken
     at the ER. Looked more displaced. I pointed that out and
     suggested that perhaps the figure 8 was causing further displacement because the pressure point of the strap was right
     on the outer bone that was beong pushed down. He gave me
     a sling and swathe to wear. When I got home, took it off because it wasn’t giving me the required support that I felt
     I needed. So modified the figure 8 by taking a short piece of
     ace bandage and looping it around the front slings and tying
     it tight, was able to move the pressure point of the strap off
     of the break and on to the sternum part that was solid. The
     surgeon though on that second visit did comment when looking
     at the x-ray and feeling the bone that it was “amazing”. I
     asked if that was good or bad. He said very good. My bones
     where already as he put it, solid, and not moving as with most.
     Week 3, the Tour de France. Rode every day on the trainer.
     206 miles that week watching the Tour. Greatest Tour I ever
     saw. In fact, including week 2, rode every day for 14 days.
     Also power-walked 30.4. Started thinking maybe I can get
     back into that Ironman distance triathlon August 13th!!!!!
     Week 4, was up in the mountains. In two days, power-walked
     22 miles between 7400 and 9200 feet. 8 the first day and
     14 the second. That 14 took me 3:59:30. About what I would
     run a marathon in an Ironman. That sunday, did a 4 hour
     mag trainer ride. Thank God for the Tour.
     Week 5 of my rehab, started swimming. Just kick sets and
     one-arm breast, back and free. Would have started swimming
     much earlier but couldn’t because of the road rash. Only during
     this week were all the wounds closed and no longer still draining. On friday of that week, July 22, my third visit
     with the ortho. 4 1/2 weeks after the crash. Was nervous
     going in. Kept wondering if I had done too much. I always
     kept the thought “do not interrupt the healing process” first
     and foremost in my mind. But I still had doubts. Well, the
     x-ray showed that calcification had bridged the gap! Even
     the untrained eye could see that. He had me then lift my arm
     which I did. He cleared me for above the shoulder activities
     with pain as my limiter. Also cleared to go back to work.
     That week swam 5.1 miles, rode 173, and ran (not walked) 34.
     The ortho wanted me to come back for another visit. I said
     no. Only if a complication arises. My bone is now of one and
     improving with each day. He did say I could do that Ironman
     if I wanted, but I have to be very careful since the bone
     won’t be at full strength until around 12 weeks. The way I have
     healed, I would put myself at 10 weeks. Have to be very careful
     riding. No crashing!!!!!!!
     It is week 6. Tuesday was exactly 5 weeks after crashing.
     Have swam every day since Monday. Started two arm swimming.
     Monday, very difficult. Painful. Couldn’t even stretch out
     my left arm doing breast. Did try some free. Very modified.
     I swim with a straight right arm recovery and full reach and
     roll, then start the left arm recovery as I start the right pull. The left entry is right in front of my nose pretty much
     much and is along for the ride so to speak. I can’t pull
     with any power. Tuesday a little better. Yesteday did
     10×200 freestyle. Not very fast though. On 4 at :3:40. At
     least I am progressing. Also yesterday rode 70 on my tri bike
     at 18.3 mph. avg. with 2900 feet of climbing followed by a
     t-run of 2 miles at 8:17/mile pace. I can now run with
     my left arm un-supported (before needed a ace bandage around
     my neck that I would grab on to for support as needed).
     Next week is my “test”. Only if I can complete the 3 day test,
     only then do I re-enter that race. On Monday, run 6, ride 20,
     run 12, easy swim pm. Tuesday, ride 90 with around 4000 feet climbing followed by a 2 mile easy run, easy pm swim. Wednesday, 1 hour open water swim follwed by a 20 mile ride.
     That’s it. There is no taper for me but rather a buid to the
     race. After the test, it though will be just recovery training
     the rest of the way. I feel confident now. I won’t have the same game as what I was approaching when I went down. But have
     been able to hold onto probably 90% of top performance.
     I hope this gives someone a little encouragement. Here is
     what I would suggest the wounded athlete. First, remember that
     you are still an athlete. Stick with your nutrition plan.
     Second, sleep as much as possible. That is when the bones
     are truly immobilized and are able to heal. Do not lift the
     arm above the shoulder until cleared to do so. Third, train,
     but never to the point of jeopardizing the healing process.
     Good luck to all,
     Conrad

111. Joe Says:
     July 29th, 2005 at 2:43 pm

     Conrad, I’m envious! You’re like the Terrell Owens of broken clavicles!! I broke mine the same day you did. Mine was mt. biking though. Should have listened to that rattlesnake that tried to warn me. I tried getting back into the gym a couple of weeks after the accident to at least get some cardio in. Was doing well until the lung I collapsed started complaining about it. Coughing up blood kinda’ freaked me out, so I’ve had to lay low until we figure out what’s going on with that. Congrats on the fast recovery and hope all goes well with the race. Excellent advice also!

112. Cherie Says:
     July 29th, 2005 at 9:03 pm

     Tomorrow will be 10 weeks from breaking my left clavicle falling from my horse. It was TORTURE for the first 3 weeks, but plenty of pain until my 6th week when I BEGGED my OS to allow me to see a physical therapist for the pain I had in my back, neck and chest. MY PT was able to work miracles.
     After my experience, these are my suggestions:
     1. Allow your body to heal, there is nothing you can do to make your bone heal faster.
     2. Get to a physical therapist as soon as you can, they can help with your pain, range of motion, and most importantly, since they see you often will reassure you that you are healing ok. The clavicle is the only bone that holds your arm to your body, your muscles are making up for the lack of support.
     3. THIS IS A MUST!!! GET THE SHOULDERS BACK device at http://www.shouldersback.net WAY more comfortable than the sling or fig of 8, and you might actually use it after you heal!
     No more muscle pain now, just an occaisional deep, heavy pain at the break site which I am told is a normal “growing pain”.
     Healing and happily riding again!

113. David Says:
     July 30th, 2005 at 9:26 am

     Today I am at the end of my 3rd week, I would agree the first week was the worst. I did nothing but sleep. The second week I was a little more alert and trying to move around. dropped the pain killers, at this point they just were more of a problem in keeping me awake at night. The third week I went back to work doing paper work at my work ( Mechanic Normally } I had to remove my sling it was causing my middle upper back a great deal of pain and with-in two or three hours the pain went away and not more back pain. The back pain was almost worse then the collar bone pain and I had been having it for almost the past week. I still have little use of my left arm and am hoping by doing some arm stretches it will gain even more flexibilty. Here is a web site I found to help give me back some of the flexibility: http://www.racingsmarter.com/collar_bone_fractures.htm I am planing on just doing the motions without the use of the bungie untill my shoulder becomes more stable.You will have to look around since I have only come across this site last night in the middle of the night I have only one more week till I have to go back to my normal duties at work, so stated the doctor’s orders, he gave 4 weeks to be back to doing my job. Hans. I am not ever sure how I came across you web page in the first place now, but I do want to thankyou and all the fine folks who have made feel a bit more normal in the time frame of the healing process. I would also like your imput on what you feel about the back brace posted, I am referring to this web site: http://www.shouldersback.net Once again Thanks!

114. marisa Says:
     July 30th, 2005 at 10:50 am

     Thanks to all of my fellow one-handed typists for sharing stories and suggestions! I broke my right clavicle 24 hours ago while bicycling on a bike path during an extended weekend at Lake Michigan. We were about twenty miles into it and heading back to our car and then out to lunch! Five hours in the ER – X-rays, a CAT scan… The ER MD described it as a “bizarre” break – oblique break along the length with two pointy ends Ouch! Almost fainted twicein the ER from the pain but the AC was so col that I snapped out of it! Now instead of hiking the dunes , flying kites, and more bicycling, I am holed up in our hotel room trying to get myself psyched up for the five-hour ride back home tomorrow.
     How did I do it? I hit a curb cut at a bad angle snd did an endo! Thank God for helmets and gloves and for the brains to know to wear them. My helmet cracked in two places – I shudder to think had I not been wearing it…
     Pillows, sling, and tylenol 3 for now – will see orthopedist first thing after weekend. My husband has been super – taking care of my every need! I am still in the scrubs they sent me home from the hospital in – I sacrifced a brand new riding jersey rather than put my arms over my head.
     Funny thing – less than a week ago I flipped my recumbent trike for a nasty bit of road rash on my right forearm that is now trapped in the sling! My husband says he’s going to start calling me Marisa Rasmussen!

115. marisa Says:
     July 30th, 2005 at 10:53 am

     Thanks to all of my fellow one-handed typists for sharing stories and suggestions! I broke my right clavicle 24 hours ago while bicycling on a bike path during an extended weekend at Lake Michigan. We were about twenty miles into it and heading back to our car and then out to lunch! Instead, five hours in the ER – X-rays, a CAT scan… The ER MD described it as a “bizarre” break – oblique break along the length with two pointy ends Ouch! Almost fainted twicein the ER from the pain but the AC was so cold that I snapped out of it! Now instead of hiking the dunes , flying kites, and more bicycling, I am holed up in our hotel room trying to get myself psyched up for the five-hour ride back home tomorrow.
     How did I do it? I hit a curb cut at a bad angle and did an endo! Thank God for helmets and gloves and for the brains to know to wear them. My helmet cracked in two places – I shudder to think had I not been wearing it…
     Pillows, sling, and tylenol 3 for now – will see orthopedist first thing after weekend. My husband has been super – taking care of my every need! I am still in the scrubs they sent me home from the hospital in – I sacrifced a brand new riding jersey rather than put my arms over my head.
     Funny thing – less than a week ago I flipped my recumbent trike for a nasty bit of road rash on my right forearm that is now trapped in the sling! My husband says he’s going to start calling me Marisa Rasmussen!

116. Tabitha Says:
     July 30th, 2005 at 9:22 pm

     Hi all, me again. Just wondering if any of you have ever experienced any kind of chest pain after your breaks. My husband started having chest pain on the side of his break, and difficulty taking a deep breath. He says its just because it hurts so much, but I’m hoping its not a blood clot etc. I read that thats a possibility after a bone break. According to him its not just a mild pain. He DOES also have a few broken ribs aside from the clavicle, but they are not really in the area as the pain. Also the yellow bruising has started to fade. Any thoughts??

117. Hans Says:
     July 30th, 2005 at 9:51 pm

     Tabitha – Chest pain can be caused by many things, not necessarily the broken ribs or clavicle. It shouldn’t be ignored if persistent. Also, there are associated symptoms that, if found, would necessitate a call to 911 or a trip to the emergency room. Here’s a site with more information:
     http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003079.htm
     I found the page above through a quick google search:
     http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chest+pain&btnG=Google+Search

118. Hans Says:
     July 31st, 2005 at 6:32 pm

     David – Someone else posted a positive note about the ShouldersBack brace. I haven’t used one myself. The figure-8 brace I used was very inexpensive (~$20) and worked fine. I don’t see a benefit to the ShouldersBack brace vs. a figure-8 for clavicle healing.

119. cherie Says:
     August 1st, 2005 at 10:35 am

     Hans,
     The benefit of the Shouldersback brace is comfort. The fig of 8 provides no back support, and I had terrible back pain wearing it. The Shouldersback has a band that goes around your chest to help your back.
     The other benefit is that you can wear it under clothing and not look like the hunchback of Notre Dame AND YOU CAN PUT IT ON AND ADJUST IT BY YOURSELF!!!!
     I would have paid 200 (or more) for the brace, knowing how much it helped in relieving my back pain. After wearing the Shouldersback, the fig of 8 seems very archaic in design.
     My OT and PT approved it, in fact, my PT placed orders for them.

120. Hans Says:
     August 1st, 2005 at 12:21 pm

     Cherie – Good information about the ShouldersBack product. Thanks for updating us.

121. Peter Says:
     August 1st, 2005 at 3:56 pm

     Just broke my clavicle 2 days ago, mt. biking. It seems like I have it good compared to some of you, or Vicodin is just doing wonders for me. I’m using the figure 8 and not the sling. The Sling seems to put undue pressure on the injury, whereas, I feel more natural with my elbow further out away from my body. Does this sound right/ok for proper healing. The figure 8 goes under my arm so the gap it creates as a wedge makes it uncomfortable and unnatural using the sling.

122. cherie Says:
     August 1st, 2005 at 8:27 pm

     Peter,
     Your elbow feels more comfortable away from your body because it allows your back muscles to support your arm, which your clavicle cannot do. B6 will help with the inevitable back spasms.
     I felt the fig of 8 pressed on the fracture site as well. Under closer scrutiny, I found the ER had fastened it on me updside down. In my quest for comfort, I purchased 3 other fig of 8 braces (plus over night shipping)…waste, they are all uncomfortable, and I found the sling made me hunch over, which could not be good.
     I am heralding the shouldersback device so strongly because of how much better I felt. Now that I am almost fully healed I feel I need to inform others who suffered like I did. The fig of 8 certainly was not designed with comfort in mind, it made me think of earlier times when they probably just used a leather strap with cloth wrapped around it. Every other bone gets a friggin cast, and we have to let our broken bones grind at each other until time passes and they find a way to grow back together.
     I really feel for all of you who have recently injured yourselves. May the days speed by to your 8 week mark.

123. Renee Says:
     August 2nd, 2005 at 6:13 am

     Hello everyone! I am so glad to have found this site. I am on my 1oth day. I feel pretty much the same as the first day it happened. I do not feel to bad during the day, but the nights are horrible. At night my shoulder area throbs and I can not get comfortable no matter what I sleep on (chair, recliner or bed). I am in a fig 8 splint and a sling. Vicadin seems to do nothing for me. Does anyone out there have any suggestions? Is it ok to sleep on my side with the fractured side up? It still throbs but takes the pressure off the fig. 8 brace for a while. Also, can you tell at all when the bones begin to move back into place? Has anyone tried heating pads to speed up healing? Thank you for any comments in advance. Renee

124. Tracie Says:
     August 2nd, 2005 at 12:55 pm

     Renee – I just passed the 6 week mark – fractured left clavicle in a high impact dirt bike accident- and can offer you a few tips based on my experience. I didn’t have vicodin but percocet – worked amazingly well for me but I only took it for a week as it made me fuzzy. You have to sleep with tons of pillows and you can’t sleep on your side for a loooong time – at least I couldn’t. I still have piles of pillows around me when I sleep. Three days ago I rolled over onto my right side to sleep for the first time – it was sweet. I found that as long as that shoulder was totally supported, there was no pain at the site but now that I’m starting to exercise the left arm I’m getting pain in other places – my neck, my biceps (did some curls this morning in the gym… baby ones and my arm feels ‘stiff’)It’s really hard on you, being immobile for so long – sad old tired muscles that can’t hold your arm up – keeping the clavicle immobilized is one consistent piece of advice you’ll find here – it’s something really important. I am now only wearing my sling when I go out and that seems fine. I broke my other clavicle when I was a kid and didn’t even go to the doctor (Finnish – something called SISU..yeahright) This time around I’m attempting to ‘listen’ to my body and basically that seems to work too – if it hurts, don’t do it.
     Going on a driving/camping/Jeeping holiday in a few days and hope to be able to crawl into a tent and carry firewood. Hans has good advice if you have a significant other…
     hooooney…
     p.s. it works for about 4 weeks – then they get sick of your whining and start to think you’re FAKING IT!

125. Emily Says:
     August 2nd, 2005 at 8:07 pm

     My 14 year old daughter broke her right collarbone July 7 in a fall from a horse. The xray that day showed a complete break just slightly closer to the shoulder than the middle. The inner half of the bone was a full 3cm above the other half. I did not see how this could possibly heal but the er doc and the Children’s Hospital ortho, the next day, both said it should heal ok on it’s own. She was given a sling with a band that wrapped around the body also. Here in Cincinnati, the word is that the figure 8 is old guard. I wonder if she should have had it. Today she had another xray. The bones are now quite close together (not touching) and overlapped by at least 2cm. At each end of the overlap there are signs that new bone is growing. But, the top bone is quite high and the rather pointy end is not covered by much tissue. What are the consequences of having one shoulder so much shorter in length than the other? And how easily could this bump so close to the surface be rebroken? Is this a situation in whick surgery should be considered. Since her normal bone growth is about finished, do you think she should see an adult ortho (oh, you know what I mean!). Any info would be appreciated.

126. Ben Says:
     August 3rd, 2005 at 7:52 am

     I broke my left collarbone yesterday riding my mountainbike. The x-ray showed that the bone is broken in two places. Will this take longer to heal? Would an operation be a good idea?
     Btw im 18 years old..roughly how long would it take to heal by itself? thanks

127. Hans Says:
     August 3rd, 2005 at 9:40 am

     Emily – I don’t have any answers for you regarding the shorter shoulder length or the chance of rebreaking. I would recommend having her get a second (or third) opinion from another ortho doc.
     As for the figure-8 being “old guard”, yes that comes up. It’s almost like asking people about a Mac vs. PC computer. You are bound to get many opinions for either one. From my own experience I found it worked really well. Others have commented as to the same. I think there’s been only a few that commented that it didn’t work for them. So, I personally go with the thought that if it doesn’t hurt you and has a chance of helping, then use it.
     ——
     Ben – I don’t know if your double break will take longer to heal. Injuries are unique and each person recovers differently. Have an orthopedic doctor examine the injury. Be sure to let the doctor know that the types of activites you like to do. For example, cycling, swimming, etc.. A doctor may recommend different treatments depending on your needs.
     As for surgery, I recommend it only as a last resort. But for some injuries it’s the best solution. Again, get an opinion from a doctor. Get another if you are uncomfortable with the first doctor’s opinion.
     Being younger, 18, you will probably heal up fast. That’s the lucky part of having a break when you are younger.

128. Tabitha Says:
     August 3rd, 2005 at 8:46 pm

     Hans, ARGGGHHH!! I’m so mad. I followed your advice and dragged my hubby straight to the ER. They did NOTHING, didnt follow up on the chest pain AT ALL. Just gave him a shot of pain meds. AND, to make matters worse, his ortho surgeon called to reschedule his surgery for Wednesday (10th). Now he has to wait another week for this surgery which was SO NECESSARY. HA. We did get two other opinions though, which were all the same. It drives me BANANAS when someone complains of chest pain and they don’t take them seriously!! ANYHOW, Thanks for the advice. I’m still worried about him though, hopefully its just some strained tendons or something…This whole ordeal is really starting to wear me down. I can’t remember the last time I was so exhausted. (and I’m not the one with the broken bone!!)

129. Hans Says:
     August 3rd, 2005 at 11:55 pm

     Tabitha – Sorry to hear that the docs are making you feel that way. But the good news appears to be that the chest pain is only pain and not something worse. I would think that if they recognized the chest pain as something critical they would have done something right then and there. Maybe they are taking it seriously but don’t have good “bed side manners”. From your description of the injuries your husband sustained, I can see how he would be in so much pain. There’s a lot of damage and all those pulls and strains aren’t helping. Maybe a massage might help reduce some pain.
     Also, remember to take care of yourself. It doesn’t help either of you get through this if you wear yourself out.

130. Tabitha Says:
     August 4th, 2005 at 2:33 pm

     I hope thats the case!! Thanks for your support.
     Tabitha

131. Tom Says:
     August 5th, 2005 at 12:23 pm

     Hi,
     My doctor says to use pain as a guide to how much i should move my arm – does anyone know if that means only do pain-free movements, or to only not move if its unbearable pain?! I must have the slowest healing fracture in the world – 13 weeks and counting… But this is a rare situation apparently, so dont let it worry you if you’ve just broken your collar bone! At least i can drive now, and the range of motion is slowly increasing. Good luck!!

132. Hans Says:
     August 5th, 2005 at 1:53 pm

     Tom – Yes, pain is a great indicator of “stop what you are doing”. My doctor and physical therpist have said the same thing. Determining the level of pain is a personal thing. I gauge mine based on levels of discomfort I am familiar with. For example, when lifting weights or hard riding I reach levels that are high but not uncomfortable. If the level moves from strain/soreness to “it hurts” then I stop. That level is usually way below unbearable pain.

133. kenvin Says:
     August 6th, 2005 at 11:36 am

     was kinda glad i found tis site as there’s so many of you here who has been thru the same stuffs which resulted in a broken clavicle bone.. i too broke my right collar bone.(into 3 pieces, something like a “Z” shaped) And was told by the doctors here in singapore, that it would heal naturally but it got worst as the gap of the bone grew further apart and the bone looked like it may tear thru my skin anytime soon. had no choice but to have a metal plating plus bone grafting to fix it back. it’s has been 3 weeks since the plating was fixed and does anyone know if there’s any side effects to it in future? it’s like i can feel the plating when i’m touching the once broken clavicle bone. it sure feels weird having a object stuck in your body..

134. Robert Wegmann Says:
     August 6th, 2005 at 12:24 pm

     Great Site..
     Now for proof that there is always somebody that just won’t listen. I’m in week 5 of a collarbone break and was told that I was healing but wasn’t healed. I was to limit myself but start using my arm. Since I felt pretty good I did some weight work that was probably over the edge and felt something move in my shoulder with a good bit of pain. Now when I reach or lean on my right arm I get a really bad pain at the point of the break and figure I’ve re-fractured it again. Does anybody know if this just means another 6 to 8 weeks or will it be even worse/better? I’m back in the sling and the only time I get pain is with unusual moves or lifting. Since I’m sure the Dr. will not be pleasant next week I figured I’d ask you guys what you think.
     Thanks
     BMX Fool

135. peter webb Says:
     August 7th, 2005 at 1:48 pm

     i was jumping a fence with a horse yesterday anyway he fell and then i fell and broke my rt. clavicle. i have a written university exam next week and if i dont pass it i’ll have to repeat the year. luckily i write with both hands, but was wondering if anyone knows any good drugs UK that don’t make me drowsy what the hospital gave me is good but making me drowsy/. and how much improved should the fracture be by next wk. – the doc said not to expect any great movements! this has totally upset my study schedeule! any ideas – question mark

136. Dick Graybill Says:
     August 7th, 2005 at 8:01 pm

     I’ll keep the lurid details brief: over the handlebars on May 25. The left clavicle broke in the middle, the ends are overlapping and separated by about 1-2 cm. The gap seems to be widening and is directly proportional to the depth of my depression. Still no union (but then I’m 65). No big problem with mobility or pain. Questions: How bad is permanent non-union? Why is surgery usually called the last resort? Does a permanent lump make it difficult to carry a backpack? Austin (JAH): I’m also from Santa Cruz. Who is your doctor, and is he any good? Hans: Thanks for all the help. Dick

137. Dick Graybill Says:
     August 8th, 2005 at 6:42 am

     One thing I forgot to ask in my comments yesterday: What kind of results have people gotten with those electronic bone growth stimulators? My bone Doc has been mumbling about using one on me. Dick

138. Hans Says:
     August 8th, 2005 at 11:06 am

     peter – No answer for non-drowsy drugs. Also, don’t expect too much improvement after only one week. But be very careful during that week not to move your shoulder. The first week is when the body works the hardest to begin healing. You can hinder that process by doing too much with your shoulder. Good luck with your exam.

139. Hans Says:
     August 8th, 2005 at 11:17 am

     Dick – It’s possible to have a permanent non-union that causes no problems. I have one now that is held together by a fibroid connection. That’s a connection that uses fibrous tissue. I’ve done several backpacking trips with my shoulder in this state, including a small lump, without any issues. But each person and their break is unique. So you will have to evaluate yourself. I think people say “surgery is a last resort” because it’s considered better to heal using non-invasive techniques. Surgery can cause other complications such as infection and increase the length of recovery. I have not used an electronic bone growth stimulator. A friend used one and said it helped. But he couldn’t say if it really helped or it worked as a placebo.

140. Chere Says:
     August 9th, 2005 at 6:24 pm

     Thank you for this website – I just wish I would have looked for it a month ago!! Broke my left clavicle July 3 mountain biking and gracefully threw, errr launched myself over the handlebars. What do they say about balancing your weight? Went to the doctor yesterday (August and there is no growth yet – my day of accident x-ray and yesterdays are identical. Concerned because I am lactose intollerant – only calcium is through vitamins…since the break haven’t been taking as much as you suggested in your story. Didn’t know about this non union thing!! Doc has me going back in 4 weeks – have to wear my figure 8 and my arm sling until then! Still having substantial pain. Is there a light at the end of my tunnel – anyone think a second opinion is in order? What is no fun – haven’t done ANYTHING for one month and at the time of the fall was training for marathon. Got on the stationary bike for 20 minutes one day and alas mixture of boredom and pain set it.

141. Joe Says:
     August 9th, 2005 at 7:02 pm

     -Robert:
     I was talking to someone Saturday and he had a similar story as yours. He re-injured his clavicle early in his healing. He was told the new growth tissue is still very pliable and would reattach after a couple of days. It did, but again it is different for everyone. Let us know what the doctor says.
     -I broke my right clavicle 6-weeks ago. Today I went to my 2nd and final therapy session. When you heal again you need to get with a Physical Therapist to make sure you don’t overdo it again. She has me doing a routine every other day. Two sets of high reps and light weights for lats, deltoids, biceps, triceps, and light chest work. For the immediate future I am to do “no” weightlifting over my head, or pushups, pull-ups, etc! She also showed me some stretching exercises, but nothing over my head.
     -When the time is right you also ought to try swimming long, easy, gliding strokes. It has really worked for me. However, make sure you exit the pool at the stairs or steps. It still smarts to attempt pulling myself out from the side.
     ShouldersBack:
     The worst thing about my recovery was wearing a Clavicle Strap underneath my suit coat. Very uncomfortable. In this forum I read about the ShouldersBack, I ordered one and it was a godsend, much more comfortable at work. In fact, I still sleep with it most nights. Currently I often sleep on my “fractured” side and wake up sore in the morning. It seems if I sleep in a ShouldersBack, there is no stiffness on those nights I roll onto the fractured area. So it must offer some needed support to the injured area.
     Good luck with your recovery. After six weeks I am back to “moderate” swimming, biking (but not falling), running and light weights. Even so, the Orthopedic Surgeon wants to see another x-ray in 4 weeks. Last week’s x-ray showed new growth, however, it is a bad break so he wants to continue to monitor it during the healing process.

142. Joe Says:
     August 10th, 2005 at 12:52 am

     Chere, I can relate to your concern a bit. I broke my clavicle on June 21st – mt. biking of course. After 3 weeks, the x-rays showed no sign of healing. I went back in for another set of x-rays on August 6th – (6 weeks) and I’m just barely starting to heal. The pics showed a very thin thread of calcification starting to connect the bones. The doc said I can lose the figure 8 and just go with a sling when I’m out and about. I’m probably looking at 14 weeks total before this thing is considerably healed. I’m 50, so this time frame isn’t that unusual. Luckily, I didn’t experience any pain with this break – I’ve broken it 2 other times. The last time I had to have it pinned. The only pain I’ve had from this one was from keeping my shoulder immobilized for so long. With a sling and a figure 8 this might be a concern for you. You really want to avoid shoulder freeze also. One thing the doc showed me, which I think is a good idea, is to use your good arm to move the other one around. Nothing above the shoulder of course. This way you’re not putting much pressure on the injured area. I notice I get some pain in the shoulder when I do this but not in break area. And even that is starting to subside after a few days. I know the pain can suck the life out of you, but I think keeping active as possible is very important, whether it’s just getting out for walk or enduring the stationary bike as long as possible. It not only keeps the blood circulating but really helps to improve your mood. My feeling is not to go for a second opinion yet but wait to see what the next set of x-rays show. If you still not seeing any healing, then see what another orthopedist…maybe one who specializes in sports medicine…has to say. Good luck!

143. Bonnie Says:
     August 11th, 2005 at 10:23 am

     This is an excellent site. The old saying misery loves company sure applies. I broke my collar bone on July 13 when I passed out during a ride. This is my second one. The first one was broken clean through and hurt much worse than this one. This one is broken two thirds of the way through and is healing quite nicely. It is really important to remember to wear your figure 8 brace, especially if it is broken clear through. Also, if you doctor does not suggest physical therapy, be sure to mention that you would like to go. The doctor waited too long on the first one and I got what they call a “frozen shoulder”. This on top of the broken clavical is just horrible. Good luck to everyone with their battle wounds and thanks to everyone for sharing their stories.

144. Ben Says:
     August 13th, 2005 at 7:07 am

     Is it a must to wear the figure 8 brace..its now a week adn a half ago since i broke my collarbone…it seems to be healing quite nicely as there is no more pain and i cant feel the bones moving anymore. im able to use my arm without pain and the figure 8 brace doesnt seem to push the shoudler back much further than it already is. so is it a must to wear it?

145. Hans Says:
     August 13th, 2005 at 11:13 am

     Ben – It sounds like you are almost to the point of not needing to wear the figure-8. I would recommend wearing it a little longer. Four more days at least. The bones have just fused but the connection isn’t necessarily strong. The figure-8 will help to maintain support and possibly prevent you from tearing the connection.

146. Tabitha Says:
     August 13th, 2005 at 1:22 pm

     Hi All! My husband had his surgery yesterday and he is doing OK, except for the 2 large incision sites they made. And the pain. lol They put in a large screw that runs the length of the bone, with bolts to hold it into place. For anyone with break as bad as his-the surgery turned out to be very necessary. The surgery was supposed to take 90 minutes and actually took 4 hours, because when the surgeon got in there he realized that it was a lot worse than he originally thought. If we had left it alone it never would have healed, and he never would have regained proper use of his arm. I have posted pictures online for his family & friends to look at (and anyone else who wants to) so if you’d like have a look. Feel free to post your pictures if you have any (of your breaks) and let me know what you think!! I’ll be posting pictures more as the healing goes on. Thanks for all your support! This site has been a very valuable asset to me during this time!
     Signed, A very relieved wife that this is almost over.
     Tabitha
     http://groups.msn.com/StevesClavicleFracture/shoebox.msnw

147. Ruth Wood Says:
     August 13th, 2005 at 5:52 pm

     I just broke my right clavicle 3 days ago in a car accident. I’m wearing a brace and taking white willow bark at night. As much as I dislike the thought of having a funny shaped collar bone for the rest of my life, I opted to not have surgery mostly because of the expense and no health insurance. I ventured online today to find some “support”. Stories of others, how they broke theirs, how they cared for it, how it healed, long-term effects of a clavicle break, etc. This was very entertaining and uplifting, although it hurts to laugh right now, and I will NOT sneeze for another few weeks, believe me. My mother-in-law is an herbalist and I’ve always been keen on natural, alternative stuff. So if anyone is interested, here’s some things to take so your body can heal itself faster and better. I was shocked to read about so many who’s bone wasn’t even beginning to fuse after 4 weeks or so. Maybe it’s common, but that doesn’t seem right to me. A good mutl-mineral, as Laura pointed out, it very important. One very good product that can be taken with the multi-mineral or in large doses on its own is Tissue Mend. Read about it at: http://www.drugfreehelp.com/herbs/formulas/tissue_mend.htm
     Buy it at: http://www.eherbsplus.com/search_results.asp?PAGE=3&txtsearchParamTxt=%2A&txtsearchParamType=ALL&txtsearchParamCat=ALL&txtsearchParamMan=4&txtsearchParamVen=ALL&txtDateAddedStart=&txtDateAddedEnd=&txtPriceStart=&txtPriceEnd=&txtSale=
     Another thing I am going to begin doing this evening is taking homeopathic remedies. they are listed below.
     Latin Name: Ledum Palustre
     Common Name: marsh tea, wild rosemary
     Description: Used for falls and bruises, puncture wounds, black eyes and other eye injuries, stings, rheumatic pain, sprains and strains, swollen extremeties, or face, or stiff tendons.
     Latin Name: Symphytum Officinale
     Common Name: comfrey
     Description: Used for prickling pains, black eyes, and fractures. This remedy acts on bones, joints, and tendons
     Latin Name: Calcarea Fluorica
     Common Name: calcium floride, fluorite
     Description: Used to increase tissue flexibility and for unwanted bone growths, deficient tooth enamel, back pain, and swollen adenoids. In children, it helps bone development in relation to learning to walk. Pains are often better with motion and heat.
     Basically, I’ll be taking the calcarea morning and night for several weeks. Doses will vary depending on who you talk to. I’ve got 30x potency. I’ll desolve 2 tablets of symphytum in a fourth cup of clean water and take a tsp. of it. If I feel less pain or any kind of response, I’ll take the same amt. of ledum 4 hours later and alternate between the two. That’s the instructions I was given. Probably after a few days, I can take it morning and night instead. So there you go. Happy healing.
     Oh, and one more thing, Arnica is awesome to take as soon as possible after the injury has occured. You can get take it orally or topically.

148. John Says:
     August 14th, 2005 at 7:48 am

     On July 17th, my 24th b-day, I joined the elite broken clavical club. I wish I could say that I broke my collar bone by riding a bike, playing football, or something worthy, but that’s not the case. I had a barstool slammed into the back of my head and when I lost my balance and fell to the ground, I used my arm to break the fall, also breaking my collar bone. I’m active duty in the Marine Corps, and lets just say that back in the day..it would have been ok to go back to work all busted up and share bar fight stories, but now, the command really looks down upon alcohol related incidents. So, the night that it happened, I took a trip over to a civilian hospital to get 37 stitches and a sling that was too small. They gave me a few percocets and shot me up with morphine!so the phone call to my command was pretty humorous because I really didn’t have a clue what I was saying due to all the drugs that I was on. I just knew I was trying to get out of work on Monday.
     So Tuesday, I took a trip to a Navy medical center to get x-rays. The doc was real cool about the situation and explained to me healing process and how much of a pain in the ass it is to have a broken clavical. He also told me it was probably the 3rd worst break that he’s ever seen and it would probably take me about 12 weeks to recover from this. So there goes everything I was just working hard for!5 days lifting in the gym, 3-8 mile runs in the mornings. The day of incident, I was 5-11 208 pounds and just working on getting stronger. Almost a month later, I’m still 5’11 lol, but dropped down to 195. My diet has been all screwed up, partially because I have been depressed from the situation, but the other part is because it was such a pain in the ass to do dishes for the first week and a half.
     The first week was hell. I had my girlfriend cut 3 of my t-shirts off of me because it was too much of a struggle to get out of them. Trying to get in uniform was even worse. And like I mentioned..my diet went to crap. I barely ate for the first 3 days because of the percocets they had me on, which I stopped taking after that because of the drowsiness. I was just so down and out because I kept playing the situation over and over in my head and kept wishing I just walked away instead of mouthing off to about 6 dudes. I was even more mad about not being able to lift or at least run. I hate running, but I was getting cabin fever from all of this crap. And my dog was being a pain in the ass. I dreaded taking him for a walk because he likes to pull. I managed though.
     The 2nd week offered a little bit of relief. Now it only took me about 2-3 minutes to put on a shirt and I was back to my diet at least. Still no exercise. I went down to get the collarbone checked out in the middle of the week and also get the stitches taken out. The start of the 2nd week I decided I wasn’t going to wear the sling anymore. I was tired of everyone seeing me with it on in uniform and then having to explain what happened. I hate drawing attention. So I see the doc in the middle of the week without the sling on, and the cuts and bruises on my face were disappearing!a complete 180 from the previous week. The doc was shocked to hear that I wasn’t taking the meds and that I wasn’t wearing the sling. He gave me some motion exercises to follow and said if I felt like I could go on a stationary bike or maybe a short jog, to do so. But, if I felt the slightest bit of pain!not to push it and just wait. So, just jumping up and down in place, I could feel my collarbone couldn’t take the jarring movement of a 2-3 mile jog. So, I just sat out the rest of the week.
     Week 3!amazing. I waited until Tuesday of week 3 to attempt a run and to my surprise, I had no pain and full movement in my left arm. It’s amazing what being sidelined for 2 weeks will do to you; from running 8 miles with no problem, to starting over, and running 4 miles and stopping several times on the way. I could feel my bone was starting to mend and I had full mobility with my arm. Oh, I didn’t mention I have been sleeping on my couch so I wouldn’t roll over on my collar bone in the middle of the night.
     Week 4- I went to a conference in Atlantic City and noticed when I woke up, I was experiencing bad stiff necks. I could feel slight pain in my collar bone that went to the center of my back. I’m not sure if that was from laying in a bed for the first time and rolling over, or just part of the healing process.
     Week 5-This is the start of week 5. Tomorrow, I’m riding back down to the Navy hospital to get more x-rays, see orthopedics and talk to my doc again. The stiff necks went away, but I believe a calcium deposit has formed over the bone and it caused this huge lump to stick out of my collar bone area. I could really give a shit what it looks like!I’m just curious to see if the bone has fully mended and when I can get back to the gym. Well..that is my experience so far. I wish everyone a fast recovery that is dealing with this same experience and any advice that can be shared would be awesome.

149. Terry Says:
     August 14th, 2005 at 10:51 am

     I was told the bump on the collar bone is normal. The bump on top of the collar bone poses no health concerns, but a large bump on the bottom of the collar bone may affect some nerves. So if you feel any numbness or tingling in your arm/fingers…get it checked out.

150. Mary Says:
     August 14th, 2005 at 10:57 am

     On August 5, 2005, I was in a motorcycle accident (car pulled out in front of us) and broke my left clavicle along with both knees being ripped open. The best part is that I am left-handed. I can’t do much and I can’t walk very well either. Thanks to everyone that shared their stories here. It is nice to know that I am not alone in my frustration. The depression is killer. I just want my life back. My clavicle broke and came through the skin so I had surgery and was sent home in a sling. It is now the enemy and I greatly despise it. When it is done serving its purpose, I intend on burning it. I go back to the Orthopedic Surgeon in a week and it sounds as though they will put me in a figure eight brace at that time. I’m glad that I found this site, it gave me an idea of what to expect in the coming weeks. I hope everyone recovers quickly w/ little pain and can get back to living their lives.

151. conrad Says:
     August 16th, 2005 at 10:22 am

     7 1/2 weeks after breaking my left clavicle, I completed the
     Full Vineman Triathlon (iron distance) in Sonoma county California
     this past Saturday, August 13th.
     Granted, I pushed the recovery process to the limit, but
     nonetheless, shows what can be done.
     No one here should lose any faith and hope. Be positive and
     focussed and you will heal.

152. Peter Hsu Says:
     August 18th, 2005 at 6:09 pm

     My broken clavicle from 18 days ago has healed very fast, however, the overlap has shortened my shoulder length and the angles of the overlapping bones seem to leave my affected shoulder in a permanent “shrug” compared to my good shoulder, so not only does it look shorter, it looks like it’s higher too.
     The two triangular ends of the break overlapped at what looks like the two shorter (furthest apart) ends of the triangles and although I ‘ve been told it was a radial break so that much of the length I though I was losing (the two hypotenuses of the triangles plus the overlap) is less (because parts of what I was considering the triangular ends were really the same piece of bone but I’m seeing the radial half of each end.
     Has anyone else had this problem? Is there any good methods to try to elongate my bones at this timeframe (weeks 3-4). I’ve put my figure 8 back on and cranked it super tight even though my doctor says it probably won’t do any good any more. I’ve also made it a point to stretch my shorter shoulder back as often as I can while at my desk job at work.
     Has anyone else had similar issues with shortened bones and had any advice to lengthen them? thx.

153. Ruth Says:
     August 19th, 2005 at 8:50 am

     Can anyone explain what might be happening if I suddenly feel a burning, ripping pain at the point of the break? I was attempting to nurse my daughter when her head bumped my arm. That was 3 days after the break occured. I was ok after a while and it looked to my husband like the bones were more where they ought to be. Then a couple of days later, my son was attempting to place a pillow under my arm for support and I felt it again. After laying on the couch for some time I attempted to get in bed and when I was almost flat on my back, there came the pain again, only it lasted quite a while. Since then (I’m on day 9) everything has been ok, but the bone looks like it did originally, with the bones kind of bent toward my neck at the break and there’s a litttle jagged piece that pokes up. Now, one thing that I’ve not done is take any pain medication except for asprin. I haven’t taken it consistently, just at night for the first 4 days or so. I’m not sure what I would have felt, if anything at all, if I had been taking something strong all along. Anyone tried “straightening” theirs on their own?

154. Hans Says:
     August 19th, 2005 at 9:56 am

     Peter – I don’t think you can do anything at this point in time for the length of your collar bone. If the angle and length that the bone has fused will cause you problems then I recommend going to an orthopedic doctor as soon as possible to have it evaluated. If the doctor recommends surgery it’s better having it done sooner rather than later.
     Ruth – When I had pain such as you described, it was normally associated with an action that jarred or bumped my break. It was a big red flag warning me to not do that. I would highly recommend you try your best not to bump, jar, or move your shoulder. Each time you do so while the bones are trying to fuse back together you risk undoing the healing. If you aren’t wearing a figure-8 than you should try using one. It helps to stabilize the shoulder and keep your alignment. In essence, it is helping to “straighten” the broken ends of the bones.

155. Steve Mentzer Says:
     August 20th, 2005 at 5:24 pm

     I can attest to Hans comments to Ruth. I am currently at the end of my fourth week of healing my broken left clavicle. About 3-4 days after the break I lost my balance in the shower and fell against the stall. Of course it was the left side. I got such a shooting pain, I about cried. It was definitely a “don’t do that again” warning. My recovery now is progressing well I think. I will have more x-rays taken Tuesday and the movement I have in my left arm is much better and pain free. I am off the meds(Vicodan)and the figure 8 brace has done wonders for my posture.This according to my wife. Good luck to all in their recovery.

156. N. Osgood Says:
     August 22nd, 2005 at 4:12 am

     this os a most informative site. Nothing like reading about lengths of healing time and simular symptoms.
     We had an intruder on June 4th, and I took a tumble down the stairs,landing on the right shoulder (I’m right handed ,and paint murals for a living …well,used to)The granite floor was unforgiving.No bruising for three days,so I ignored the pain and set granite cobblestones (54 jumbos) in the patio, making sure not to raise my arm above waist level…could’t anyway
     The patio looks wonderful,and probably,using the shoulder was a good thing. At 56,it is going to take a while for full range of motion to return,but I can, at least shift the gears on my truck now,without reaching through with the left hand to shift.
     The “portabello mushroom” bruise that extended from inside the elbow,all the way to my armpit, vanished after one week,and I was able to brush my hair again, without reaching across with the left hand, not to mention other personal actions needed by the right hand.I can now raise the arm just above shoulder level (not pushing it) and rotate the shoulder….but still no reaching across the back.I think if you don’t use it,it would be worse, but I do pace myself.My husband says he thinks it’s amazing how it is coming along…no sling,or cast….and the only pain medication I’ve used is Flexall…eases it a bit. Pain meds wouldn’t work for me…I’d feel no pain and reinjure myself….I do landscaping too.I can hardly wait for this to completely heal!!! And it will…slowly, but surely.

157. Tabitha Says:
     August 22nd, 2005 at 7:39 pm

     ******Update**** Hi All!! Well, my hubby had his surgery 10 days ago, and its doing really well! They took his stitches out today and the xrays showed excellent healing. There have been no real complications. I only wish they had done it right when the accident happened instead of waiting-and delaying- him 3 weeks. Hope you to get well soon!
     Tabitha

158. Joe Says:
     August 23rd, 2005 at 9:49 am

     Any golf or tennis players out there? If so, how long was it before you started playing again? I am at week 8 of a collarbone break. I am no longer seeing a physical therapist; however she thought I could “ease” into golf or tennis at week 12. Would like to hear from anyone else about when they started playing golf or tennis again.

159. David Says:
     August 23rd, 2005 at 7:30 pm

     Ruth, I am in my week 7 after my injury, I too experienced the feeling everything was tearing apart at the littlest things I would do. I am now past that phase and I would agree it is better to make sure no sudden movements are done until movement is somewhat regained. I am feeling better everyday, I do have an appointment with a bone doctor/surgeon. At week 4 I had another xray taken and they felt it was not healing, I am not sure if it is or not. The pain is still there as a dull ache, but with some Advil it seems to be ok. The harder I try to use it, the worse it seems and always seems to ache more at night after working all day and better in the morning. I am now able to use my arm to wash my hair with out alot of stiffness or great pain in rasing my arm. My goal is to go to my appointment on Friday and have them tell me this is all normal and that it is going to take alot longer then the 4 weeks my doctor told me it would take to be able to go back to work and do all I was doing before. I certainly am not to that point yet. But each week that goes by seems to be better. I broke the same collar bone when I was 9 and do not remember much about it. I am 42 now and will certianly remember it now. I am Thanksful I found this site, It helps me feel better and not so worried that it is not healing fast enough. Thanks!

160. Ben Says:
     August 24th, 2005 at 6:30 pm

     Its now just over 3 weeks ago since i broke my collarbone into 3 pieces…the pain is gone and i can use my arm freely again..i jsut cant lift heavy things.
     The only thing im worried about is that the bones are growing together wrong..because i got a lump on my shoudler now..and my shoudler is quite a bit shorter than the other one.

161. Andy Says:
     August 26th, 2005 at 3:26 am

     I am now in week 12. Broke my clavicle diving for a ball in a softball game. Everything I have experienced seems very similar to what most here have gone through (the immediate pain, sleeping on the couch, figure 8 sling, and very slow healing.) I have full range of motion in my arm and within the past week or so have stopped feeling the sharp pain down my bicep caused by, what felt like a pinched nerve somewhere in the break area. My problem is that while I can do most things, the doctor says that I am still not healing at the break point. So I have been fitted with some sort of electric thing that supposed to stimulate bone growth. Seems silly to me, but I’ll give it a shot. Would recommend, based on limited research, Tylenol rather than Ibuprofen-type pain killers. Some things I’ve read seem to indicate those drugs may slow the healing process. That’s at least worth some further investigation.

162. Gina Says:
     August 29th, 2005 at 11:56 am

     I’m at day 6 of my broken clavicle. What a miserable injury! I’ve broken my right wrist 2x and my left wrist 1x…I think the pain in this clavicle is the same as the pain from all broken wrists combined!

163. Gina Says:
     August 29th, 2005 at 12:00 pm

     I’m at day 6 and this sucks so bad!!

164. Ian Says:
     August 29th, 2005 at 7:03 pm

     I’m in to week 5 since the soccer accident, week 4 since the operation to have a screw put in. Just got back to work this week after going nuts in the apartment on my own…
     I have another two weeks before my check-up x-ray where they will hopefully decide when to take the screw out. The pain is fine, none at all but I’m still limited to no movement in the sling.
     The worst thimg by far is sleeping! Anyone else suffering badly from lack of sleep? I find I can go for 3 hours max before some little back muscle fatigues and wakes me up. I still have to have the arm supported by folded towels to stop any movement, I don’t think my back likes it.

165. Terry Says:
     August 29th, 2005 at 7:25 pm

     Ian – I’m in week 7 and haven’t had a good night’s sleep yet. Similar problem my lower back wakes me up after about 3 to 4 hours of sleep. Try putting a pillow or two under your knees. Or try sleeping on your side with the bad arm supported by pillows…i had no luck with this position but maybe you will. The bags under my eyes are growing…good luck.

166. Ian Says:
     August 29th, 2005 at 7:37 pm

     Oh joy, so I have another few weeks of zero sleep to look forward to… not sure if I’m allowed to sleep on my side yet.
     Next week I’m allowed to move my forearm out and in (while bent) to avoid frozen shoulder. I asked the doctor about lack of sleep/back muscle pain and he said “welcome to shoulder surgery”. He’s very good actually, a specialist in shoulder reconstruction. He works out of the same practice as the Australian Rugby Union physician (he referred me originally) and they specialise in sports injuries. I can’t fault them so far. Health care in Sydney seems pretty good.

167. Terry Says:
     August 30th, 2005 at 6:51 am

     Or you could try sleeping in a chair…a lazy boy would be the best…wish i had one.

168. Ian Says:
     August 30th, 2005 at 9:38 pm

     A lazy boy would be great… I tried the pillow under legs technique and it gave me an extra hour – that or or I was just more knackered.
     My physio recommended a squashy ball to squeeze when my arm is extended and I found that lying on this (with the ball under the muscle that fatigues) helped a lot more. Pressure on the muscle whilst I breathe must give it a slight massage effect and stop it fatiguing (sp?) so much. Or something. I’ll try again tonight.

169. JLB Says:
     September 2nd, 2005 at 5:08 am

     Hi, broke right clavicle 4 months ago, mid shaft and displaced (overlapping). Although I’m feeling normal the bony lump is presenting problems. My two main issues are the car seatbelt, as on right side (uk), and back pack straps. Can anyone help? I know this isn’t much to worry about really. I would like to thank you in advance for any help you can provide! This is a great site, thanks.

170. Hans Says:
     September 2nd, 2005 at 7:40 am

     JLB – Is your lump causing you pain or discomfort when you have pressure applied to it? For example, from the seatbelt or backpack straps? If not then you shouldn’t have any worries as long as the bone has fully healed. I have done all day backpack trips with the strap on my lump and without problems. But, pay attention to how you feel. If there is pain or it becomes sore then you will need to back off.

171. JLB Says:
     September 2nd, 2005 at 9:55 am

     Thanks Hans! About my lump! I have some prominent points: Top, middle and bottom (compound fracture). Although the bone is healing well these points are stimulating nerves in the skin when pressure is applied. I have been informed that there is a possibility that bony remodelling, in the future, may possibly help. Originally it was suggested that trimming the bony was a possibility in the future. However, at my last appointment I was told that this was unlikely as it could present even more problems. In the mean time I’m wondering how to cope because I would love to get a back pack on again and forget about the seatbelt. Also, has anyone found wearing something on their lump and putting pressure on the nerves helps the nerves adapt or whatever? I would be grateful for any suggestions or help. Good luck everyone!

172. Hans Says:
     September 2nd, 2005 at 12:28 pm

     JLB – I can’t answer about helping the nerves adapt. A physical therapist might provide some help with that. But here’s a possible solution for using a backpack. You could modify the strap so that it’s split in the middle so that the two sides go around the lump. Purchase a spare strap for your pack and try modifying that. Oh, and don’t even think about not wearing your seatbelt! :’)

173. cjordan Says:
     September 8th, 2005 at 6:59 pm

     Sept. 8 Candace
     June 14 my husband and I were riding our tandem bike when the front tire blew. The front of the bike jack-knifed and I was thrown off the bike; the next thing I knew I was on the side of the rode awaiting a ride to the ER. At our local hospital it was determined I’d broken both the left clavicle and the left scapula (shoulder blade) and would probably need surgery so I was sent by ambulance to Mayo Clinic. After several more hours of xrays and MRIs I was kept overnight and the following day they decided I didn’t need surgery afterall. The orthopedic doctor said this injury was an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10. And it was absolutely horrible! I spent the long hot summer in a shoulder immobilizer; being left-handed it was doubly hard. After 10 weeks I was in therapy, just using a sling, and starting to feel better. I’d learned to do many things with just my right hand. I felt really like I was going to be back to normal just in time for my teaching job to begin. The first day back with the kids I felt great- I realized I could brush my hair and teeth with my left hand! I’d learned to right pretty well with my right hand! On the way to bringing the kids to the bus, they decided to play a little hopscotch and I felt so good I joined in. Foolish woman! I tripped on my sandel, went right down and knew immediately I’d broken my right clavicle! Which the trip to the ER confirmed. So talk about depression! It’s been a week and I don’t have full use of either hand plus a lot of pain. I tried to go back to work today, but it’s just not possible because of the pain and there’s so many things I can’t do. Maybe in another week. I’m using the figure 8 which I couldn’t do with the first injury because of the broken scapula. I guess it’s a lesson in patience. That’s really the only thing I can take away from it. One week down and maybe I’ll feel good again in another three.

174. Kelly Says:
     September 8th, 2005 at 7:07 pm

     First, this forum is awesome. It’s very comforting to see that my aches and pains are normal.
     I broke my right clavicle two weeks ago tomorrow while mountain biking. I was actually on a local BMX course that just consists of nothing but steep jumps. Yeah, I’m an idiot. I hit a jump too fast, flipped upside down, and landed on my head/shoulder. My helmet, which is stronger than a human skull, was cracked in seven places! Without that helmet, I’d be dead. Soooo, even with all the pain (which is intense), I am thrilled that I’m not dead or paralyzed.
     I think my range of motion is progressing OK. I’m not using the sling, which I hate anyway. The main source of pain is the constant throbbing in my arm muscles. At this point, my shoulder only hurts when I move it awkwardly or try to push or pull with it.
     One question: since my break started fusing a week ago, I have experienced constant, low-level tingling in the tip of my right thumb. Anyone else have this problem? I see the doc next week for a follow up x-ray so I’ll see what he says about it. That’s the only symptom I have that I didn’t see mentioned above.
     Again, thanks for the forum.

175. Hans Says:
     September 8th, 2005 at 9:53 pm

     Kelly – Tingling is one of the symptoms of a broken collar bone. In some cases it’s an indication of a nerve being pinched or hindered. Be sure to mention it when you see your doctor. You can also cause numbness or tingling by wearing your sling incorrectly. Make sure it’s not too tight.
     Good luck and glad to hear to wore your helmet!

176. Tracie Says:
     September 9th, 2005 at 4:49 am

     Here’s a sorry update. Week 12 and I have non-union of the bone. My arm aches about 50% of the time, especially at night. I return to work next week (teaching) and was told to keep my sling on!!! at 12 weeks! (I’d stopped wearing it several weeks ago) so i wouldn’t be tempted to use my arm. Any similar experiences? A nice add on to my situation is that I’ve recently discovered that my TMJ (in the jaw) has become dislodged or damaged – most likely due to the impact of my accident back on June 18th, but possibly from popping my ears so much driving through the Colorado Rockies. I had expected to be back to normal by now… far from it. This really sucks.

177. Renee Says:
     September 9th, 2005 at 8:14 am

     I want to know if anyone out there had a hard time of adjusting after getting rid of the figure 8 strap. My doctor wants me out of it completely by Monday. (My next appointment.) My shoulder has been hurting since removing it (not alot – just lightly throbbing or pressure) and I get a dull lightning bolt pain running down right in front of my back shoulder blade. My shoulder has been popping and catches and crackes occationally. Can anyone tell me if this is normal after wearing a splint for 8 weeks? I really need to get back to work and I have been told I must have a full release from doctors care order before they will let me come back. I am a sustitute teacher. Thanks everyone!

178. Paul H. Says:
     September 9th, 2005 at 9:56 am

     Hello all, fun site! I broke my right collar bone back on August 8th. I was rising my bicycle and hit a pot hole. The ER put me in a sling and sent me one my way. The x-rays looked good, broken but still some contact. My two week follow up with the ortho showed that the bones had moved apart. My guess is after the swellingwent down, things shifted. The added a figure 8 harness to my sling. Two weeks later and it is getting better. Today I’m strting week 4 with the sling/harness combo. No pain, just clicking/popping at the bone if I move.
     The doc was optimistic. He thinks after my check on the 29th f sept I can go down to using just a sling or harness alone for 2 more weeks. It will be 10 weeks when it is all said and done.
     I had broken the same collar bone as a kid (age 10 and 12). It healed in 4 weeks using just a figure 8. My recent research indicated that since I’m 30 now. the bone is calcified and will heal slowly. Under age 20, the collar bone is mostly cartiledge and heals fast. Oh the joys of growing old.
     One question for all of you out there. Any lingering side effects of the break? I have had a tough time swallowing since the accident. It actually moves the bone when I swallow! Any clues? My research indicated a ton of possibilities from muscles to sternum injuries. When I mentioned it to the ortho doc he just said it could be muscles and left it at that. I guess I’ll wait until the 29th to quiz him again!
     Thanks for the stories. Its eerily comforting to know that I’m now alone. The world keeps moving and you seem to stop. I’m very impressed be those of you able to carry on normal lives (riding bikes!) after such a short time. Hopfully the doc will clear me to in 3 weeks!
     – Paul H

179. Terry Says:
     September 9th, 2005 at 10:43 am

     Renee – I stopped wearing my figure 8 brace after 7 weeks and my shoulder was quite sore and painful. I think its the muscles trying to awaken after not being used for such a long time. Each day that goes by gets a little better and with physio it is helping a lot.

180. Renee Says:
     September 9th, 2005 at 11:54 am

     Terry – thank you SO much for your reponse! I was hoping someone would say something like that and put my mind at ease. My doc. said if all was OK I wouldn’t need therapy but I will wait and see…I want the same quality of life I had before. I ran off all the exercizes I found from a link someone had posted way back in the forum. The x-ray will tell on Monday. It really does just feel like it is really weak from not being used in so long. Thanks again, I will keep everyone posted as to what happens on Monday.

181. Tracie Says:
     September 9th, 2005 at 12:02 pm

     Just back from physio – the guy got my x-ray reports (I’m at 12 weeks now) and said that the first x-ray showed that the break was a good one, but clean – bones almost touching apparently. Next x-ray at 4 or 5 weeks showed the same thing but no healing. I found out today (not from my doctor, but from the physio guy) that the last x-ray – done at 10 weeks – shows ‘displacement’ of the bones. My arm has started to hurt recently and the bone, which used to lie flat, now seems to be jutting up… apparently on top of the other one. He said I’ll have to see an orthopaedic surgeon, who will probably have to reset the bone and/or give me a figure 8 sling to wear. Has this happened to anyone? I’m so fed up… I was good – everything was perfect – but now it’s all displaced. i can’t recall having done anything to knock the bone out of alignment… maybe slouching too much?
     What does anyone know about surgery in a case like this? What would they do? Is it always necessary? Can the bone still heal or connect if it’s become displaced??

182. Tracie Says:
     September 9th, 2005 at 2:07 pm

     p.s. Hans – re: your comment weeks ago about using the figure 8 sling? I am kicking myself that I didn’t insist on getting one from my doctor. Doctors are hard to come by here these days and it’s like we have to be grateful to even have one. i didn’t argue with mine, did NOT pursue the figure 8 issue and look at me now!

183. Blair Guinea Says:
     September 10th, 2005 at 3:03 pm

     Hey everybody….
     {from new zealand n medical treatment is free}
     {100 % distal third fracture clavicle left shoulder}
     thanks for the info and words of confidence !
     i am 46 and fell off my motorcycle dirt biking coming up to 7 weeks ………first week after crash, x ray n doc said, in 2 weeks take off figure 8 brace and begin slight movement, i did so…….fine so far but last x ray 1 week ago, another doc said NO MOVEMENT ! and another 4 weeks off work after a final x ray then…….and if more muscle tissue is apparent, more thab bone tissue/callus, then they will operate and put metal in my arm.
     SHIT ! my argument if that were the case {which i 100% hope it isn’t} why not do this in the begining !!!!!!
     my suffering people we need more help and guidance !!!!!!!!, as it seems our recovery is such a hit and miss affair and at the end of the day, you get so pissed off being SO LAZY particulally when i am so healthy and fit !!!!
     damn i miss riding my XL 250 HONDA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     anyway, my arm feels ok, and for the 9 millinth time feeling for the callus which is obviously there but still feel a fraction of broken bone {moving independantly} maybe its my imagination……………..because i am so damned fed up !!!!
     i suppose we have to look at this phyilisophically ??? as really we have to rely on ‘mother nature’ to do his or her shit
     and be happy we can spend endless hours on pc games or reading or if you have it, being bored,,,,,,,,DAMN !
     ok thanks n girls, be interested what u say n traci do not loose hope, you’ll be back on ya trail bike soon !
     shit my wife wants me to sell my bike, YEAH RIGHT !!!
     take it easy ya’ll……..you got to and have no option
     be happy………….cheers blair

184. Tracie Says:
     September 10th, 2005 at 5:06 pm

     Blair – my boyfriend asked me 2 days ago if I didn’t think I should sell my bike because this is so bad… I almost slugged him. He’s got a big KTM (along with a couple of Hondas- XR/XL.. even an old TL) – and has never had an accident. He’s 46 too.
     I guess he’s just A BETTER RIDER THAN I AM! I’m becoming a misery to be around… depression is setting in despite my desperate attempts to keep it at bay . It’s really tough finding ways to have fun with one arm, when ‘fun’ used to be dirt biking, mountain biking, skiing, swimming, back-packing.
     Who would have thought I would still be wearing a sling at 12 weeks ????

185. Blair Guinea Says:
     September 10th, 2005 at 5:59 pm

     ktm 450 or 510 {nice thumper}
     Traci,
     sure you feel that way but my sling is still on @ 7 weeks, well should b, but i just hold my arm close and try to keep my hole arm as immobile as possible.
     i read earlier this morning a guy had a ‘mal-union’ @ 16 weeks, but generally is accompanied with a great
     pain, so with that fact because i only have slight pain intermitantly and i do feel a relative ‘mal-union’on the fracture site i should be improving ?????.
     hope this accounts 4 u 2…………
     do not get down, remain hopeful……..and chill out
     cheers blair
     ps i know the old tl’s 2

186. Ben Says:
     September 11th, 2005 at 6:52 am

     Im 18 and broke my collarbone into 3 pieces during a downhill mountianbike race about 6 weeks ago and believe it or not ive been riding again since last week. i dont feel any pain in my shoulder while riding. Even the doctor has allowed to cycle again..as next week i have another dh race. i jsut cant afford to fall onto it again at the moment
     ben

187. Hans Says:
     September 11th, 2005 at 4:40 pm

     Tracie – Sorry to hear the bone is not healing. It’s possible that time will allow it to heal. Sadly for those of us that aren’t kids the healing process can take longer. Women can also take longer to heal than men.
     You didn’t mention if your doctor is a orthopedic doc. If not then I highly recommend that you find a good orthopedic doctor to evaluate your shoulder. It’s also important to be up front with the doctor about your expectations and the activites you like to do. This will help the doctor determine the best route. I mention this because some doctors don’t seem to understand the needs of athletes or those that use their arms and shoulders for specific activities. It might be fine for some (e.g. in-active people) to go on with a mal-union or the bones fusing together at a shorter length, but that won’t do for others.
     Be strong and be confident in how you want to heal.

188. Hans Says:
     September 11th, 2005 at 4:56 pm

     Ben – Welcome to the busted collar bone club. I was lucky to never have a major injury when I raced DH. Beat the heck out of myself but nothing busted. As for healing in such a short time… of course, because you’re 18!!! Yup, you have the luck of being young. That’s when to bust ‘em.
     As for racing so soon… well, you know the risk. I would recommend taping up the shoulder beforehand. Make sure to give it plenty of support in case something does happen. And I hope you have a good set of armor. My old Dainese suit saved plenty of skin and problem some bones.
     Good luck racing!

189. Blair Guinea Says:
     September 11th, 2005 at 5:58 pm

     Ben
     so envious of you,
     take it easy going back so soon man !
     Hans thanks for the site
     cheers Blair

190. Tracie Says:
     September 12th, 2005 at 5:06 pm

     Hey Ben, 18 years old and riding mountain bikes 6 weeks post break.. sick with jealousy I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My 19 year old daughter had a bike accident this summer (stitches etc) and was riding again one week later.
     Thanks for the words of encouragement Hans – went back to work today for the first time in 12 weeks (teaching) It was tough standing all day supporting the arm, still sling bound and the pain was near constant (that old ache), but the distraction made it tolerable. More x-rays this week – and i hope to get an appt with an ortho surgeon soon. So far my family doctor hasn’t recommended one and that is my big problem. We have OHIP (health care is free) but have to get a doctor’s referral to see a specialist.
     ah well… work at least lifted the spirits somewhat – got lots of sympathy and help from students carrying books etc. – can’t be all bad when you get the sympathy-book-carrying thing happening!
     Blair – it’s a 450 – my boyfriend’s KTM – sweet bike. I have a Suzuki DRZ but sometimes ride the old TL – I love that old bike. I used to ride the 250 XR but fell a few times and couldn’t get the bike off of me, so have opted for easier to handle. The little Suzuki goes alright too.

191. cjordan Says:
     September 12th, 2005 at 6:29 pm

     Renee, I am surprised your doctor won’t give you a release to
     go back to teaching! I was not fully recovered from having a left side broken clavicle AND scapula when I stumbled and broke the right clavicle. The emergency room doctor saw no reason why I shouldn’t go back to work in two days! Well I tried and I was in such pain, besides not really being able to use either arm, that my principal told me to take sick leave for a week. So I’ll be back next Monday.

192. Renee Says:
     September 13th, 2005 at 1:57 am

     Cjordan, I have been released to return to work today. (See my next posting). My doctor had NO problem with me returning to work right from the start it was the school liability insurance that kept me from working until I got a full release. Everyone here is lawsuit crazy and the school did not want to take the chance.

193. Renee Says:
     September 13th, 2005 at 2:15 am

     Hey everyone. Wanted to give you all an update. I went to see a very well known orthopedic surgeon today for my 8-week follow-up. The x-ray showed no improvement of the clavicle. (I have a 2

194. Derry Says:
     September 13th, 2005 at 5:04 am

     Hi all – Its great comfort to read all the comments of those in a similar situation to myself. Just writing a quick note to share my experiences. I broke my clavicle about 10 months ago in a rugby tackle – the xray showed a very large displacement – the doctor in the ER recommended a figure of 8 and to come back in three weeks to see a specialist. After coming back in three weeks the orthopedic surgeon re-xrayed the shouldered and told me that the bones were too far apart to fuse properly; as Hans has explained in other posts I explained to him I was very keen to get back into the rugby again and that I led a very active lifestyle (golf, water sports, rugby, soccer)etc. Based on this information he advised me to go for the operation as the natural healing process might not allow me to fully participate in my sports – due to the bone never joining properly. I had the operation which was a success and resumed my rugby playing et al. The surgeon did warn me there was a slight risk of a rebreak on the clavicle from a fall, where the bone will try and flex on impact and the plate remaining ridgid thus causing the bone to break at the end point of the plate. Guess what thats exactly what happened and I find myself back in the same situation as last november. I am currently awaiting a operation for Thursday to have the old plate removed and new one put in. Hey c’est la vie, the only problem is my wife is insisting I give up the rugby now and I can’t say I blame her as she is the one who has to act as Florence Nightingale during my “rugby accidents” which she does a great job of btw, but I dont know if I’m ready to pack in the rugby yet. Anyway god bless ye all and a speedy recovery to all those in healing

195. Terry Says:
     September 13th, 2005 at 6:14 am

     cjordan – when i read your original post, my jaw just dropped…i can only imagine your pain. Hope you get use of one of your arms soon.

196. Mike Says:
     September 15th, 2005 at 11:32 am

     I am a 46 year old male recently involved in a motorcycle accident that resulted in a broken left clavical. The bone is broken approx. mid clavical and is an over lapping break which is pushing the top portion of the bone outward resulting in a large lump from the end of the bone protruding. I was shipped to ER by ambulance and treated. I was refered to an orthopedic surgeon the next day, who said I should have surgery and a plate installed due to my line of work (HD mechanic)which involves heavy lifting and heavy work. He also said 90% of clavicle breaks can be left to heal on their own, but felt I should have surgery due to the type of break. I was not able to have surgery for appox. 1 week so I decided to travel home and have my family doctor and a local orthopedic doctor look at it. They looked at the initial x-ray that was taken, and feel it should be left to heal on its own. He had me wear a figure of 8 sling along with a arm sling. It has now been just over 1 week and the over lapping bone still doesn’t look very good. I am seriously thinking about the surgery. Any complications that might result from surgery and plating ???? The surgeon says it is a simple procedure! I am confused, but to me the surgery seems to make more sense than letting it heal and having surgery done later. Any one else have surgery and plates?

197. Tracie Says:
     September 15th, 2005 at 12:50 pm

     Mike – We are in the same boat – but I’m 12 weeks into it now. Broken left clavicle due to a motorcycle accident – I’m 46 too, but female. In my case the bones were not overlapping at first, but are now. I haven’t even been referred to an orthopedic surgeon (family doctor has to refer me – hasn’t yet- will she? guess I’ll find out at my next appointment on Monday) I would love to hear the answer to this question too. At this point, I have near constant pain in my left arm – it radiates from my shoulder down my arm – but this has only become an issue since I returned to work last Monday. I stand all day; I’m a teacher. Seems a lot of people are told to just let it heal on its own. My question is, is it possible for bones to still fuse together when they are displaced? If so, is the healing process more painful? I would be happy to go without the surgery if I thought that eventually the bones would fuse on their own and the pain would go away. So ditto for me…any info on surgery and displaced bones?

198. Nathan Stewart Says:
     September 15th, 2005 at 1:05 pm

     Hello All,
     Great to read all the similar stories and very educational I might add. I think THIS is going to kill me…sitting still and all.
     I broke my lt collar bone on the outside 1/3rd in a Downhill Mtn bike crash at Whistler, Sept 2 ’05 – Dirt Merchant…Was a little to hot over a table and missed the transition…bottomed the bike out and then got tossed forward.
     I was given the sling treatment by the docs so far, but after doing some much needed research on company time (Work / life balance ‘eh)I have decided to get a figure 8 brace to try it out…Friends tell me they will keep the bone alligned better to aid fusion of the bones.
     I have an appt w/ an orth surgeon in 5 days, but I want to have this heal naturally so I will exhaust my options.
     BTW, I’m signed up for Ironman Canada next year, with the goal of getting a spot for Kona, so I gotta get training…AAAAHHHHH !!!
     Things to remember, docs and surgeons are authorities on these fractures but tnot experts…that is why a forum such a s this is sooo good to learn about best practices which will help us out in the long run !!
     Peace and heal well !

199. Dee Says:
     September 15th, 2005 at 1:31 pm

     My son is 12 and broke his left wrist and right collarbone on May 21, 2005 in an accident on his bike. We thought all was fine, until he just started running track for school. He’s having alot of pain in his shoulder while running, or playing sports. He actually finished his last 1/2 mile holding his shoulder yesterday (and managed to come in 5th place out of about 40 other boys). He has x-rays today and sees the dr tomorrow. I’m rather nervous now, hearing about others have become displaced after weeks of good x-rays. It’s almost 17 weeks post and he’s only 12 though, so I’m trying to think with the “kids heal faster and better” mentality.

200. Josh Says:
     September 15th, 2005 at 1:42 pm

     Hi all,
     Lots of familiar sounding stories here. I broke my left clavicle after getting hit by a car while out running September 1. The fracture is on the outside third, and looked more displaced when x-rayed 6 days later. Both the first and second opinions I got from othopedic surgeons was that surgery was an option, but many people live with the mis-alignment without any symptoms. It’s also possible the bones will unite down the road, although I was told I’d still probably have a bump. Because the bone fragment connected to my shoulder is in several pieces, they said the surgery could be complicated and there is no guarantee of good results.
     I’ve decided to wait it out and hope for the best. Running is my main hobby, so I’m not as about the impact on heavy lifting or getting banged around.
     I’m wearing the figure 8 brace. It doesn’t feel like it’s helping, but who knows. Hopefully I can start riding a stationary bike and running again soon.
     Here’s to speedy recoveries for all, and I look forward to hearing peoples experiences.

201. Ian Says:
     September 15th, 2005 at 7:10 pm

     I posted a while back but thought I’d update as a few are thinking of surgery. I’m a 30 year old male BTW.
     I broke the left clavical on the end third playing soccer at the beginning of August (I’m now post 7 weeks). I went to A&E on the Saturday of the accident where they x-rayed and referred me to an orthopeadic surgeon on Thursday. The problem was that apart from the main bone pointing up, then tendon connecting to it’s underside had come off so was not pulling it back in to place with sufficient force, thus the bone wouldn’t heal that great. He gave me two options -
     Option 1 was to let it heal naturally and be left with a bump. If this didn’t heal well then I would need surgery where they would take bone from the hip to sort it out.
     Option 2 was to have surgery straight away.
     I went with option 2. I had surgery the following Monday (9 days after the break) and had a screw put through the collar bone and in to the top of the shoulder blade where it rolls over the top of the shoulder (see http://www.flickr.com/photos/nadiapriestley/32544859/ for the x-ray just after the operation). Hurt for a couple of days but nothing unbearable. 2 weeks of keeping the shoulder absolutely still was tedious but it had to be done.
     Anyway… yesterday was my 2nd follow-up with the surgeon, now being 5.5 weeks post op. It has healed incredibly well, solid, no bump and I start 90% full movement of the arm from now onwards. I still have to have the screw taken out but this is a minor procedure. The whole the screw leaves will take approx 3-4 months to completely fill up but after that it’s as good as new.
     So, my view is that if you are offered surgery by a proper shoulder orthopeadic surgeon then take the opportunity.

202. cherie Says:
     September 15th, 2005 at 10:06 pm

     Hi,
     I’m 35 and I broke my left clavicle mid third back in May in a fall from my horse (does any one else know that Madonna broke hers a few weeks ago in a fall!). Anyway, it will be about 17 weeks or so. I had physical therapy from week 7 through week 12, which helped in getting rid of all the pain and I thought all was well. Well, last week my shoulder started bothering me again, but not at the break site…it felt like my shoulder was dislocating. So I called my PT, he said the outer third of my clavicle healed at a twisted angle, which has changed the whole dynamics of my shoulder. It healed this way because of overlapping at the union site. My clavicle is pulling my scapula forward, and this is causing my humerus bone to stretch on the tendon the holds it in place…and that it was “popping out” YIKES…he said it was a good thing I came back. I am back seeing him once a week, doing specific exercises to strenthen my shoulder so that it accepts the new “dynamics” of the bones. He also mobilizes the joint to move in the proper range of motion, which feels very good.
     The good thing is there is not much pain, just discomfort. My break site lump is actually bigger than before (I was told that increased activity early on would cause this, but that the size would go down over the years). Although I have full range of motion, I am still uncomfortable lifting anything heavy, as well as wearing my seat belt, as it lays on my break site, but I still wear it of course. I still can’t sleep on my side.
     I just want to say I empathize for all of you. Breaking a collar bone is very serious, but our Dr’s usually say “it will heal on its own, here’s some darvocet”. I know how painful and disabiling it is. Its just awful. Time will heal your break and you will feel better soon. Get in to physical therapy as soon as you can so that you can start retraining your chest muscles to work again, and to strengthen your shoulder.
     I have posted here before, and each time I recommend the shoulder’s back device…it is MUCH more comfortable the the fig of 8. http://www.shouldersback.net
     Hoping weeks pass quickly for all of you!

203. Blair Guinea Says:
     September 16th, 2005 at 8:33 pm

     Hey YA’LL………Hans, Tracie everybody
     Yeah yeah……..i symply cannot wait to be mobile once again, well i am to a degree, shoulder healing ok I THINK and arm in sling after 7 weeks, can feeling bone tissue forming !, so very brief but this really is DE’ best site your gonna get, can’t wait 2 ride my bike again {few months away maybe}……Tracie , Cherie, hang in there…….
     Cheers Blair
     ps. the thing is others do not really understand the mental torment we all go through
     I mean damn, it just ain’t like a wee cut on the finger !!
     WE NEED INSPIRATION + BOY OH BOY {OR GIRL} WE GET IT HERE
     THANKS SO MUCH

204. Amber Says:
     September 19th, 2005 at 8:09 am

     First, like everyone else, and to everyone else, thanks for publishing your experiences to help the newly initiated…
     My Story – The last monday of August, going a tad too fast (clearly) down Mt Tam, my SantaCruz and I parted ways with me being the more bung up: broken left clavicle (distal third), broken left 7th rib, punctured lung, nasty hip pointer, a rather sizeable chunk of my left elbow missing, and a fruity hematoma on my left thigh being my list of items to nurse back to health. SantaCruz: Nothing. Not even a scratch.
     I have to say, compared to many others here, I feel very lucky in the pain management department. So far, the most pain I experienced was just getting off the mountain in the ranger’s truck and the ambulance… and what was killing me was my rib, not my shoulder. Since then, after just 48 hours I found I didn’t need the vicodin and after about 10 days I stopped taking the motrin.
     I fully commiserate and agree that sleeping is the pits. Basically, it’s two hours at a time, at best, and I’ve come to enjoy being up at 2 and/or 3 and/or 4 in the morning and seeing the fox run by my patio doors in the dark and watching the sun rise. (Or, at least, I tell myself that I really enjoy this…)
     About my shoulder… I was referred to an orthopedic surgeon and visited him about 10 days after the crash. He said surgery was the normal recommended course for my break (Group 2, Type 2), but since the x-ray showed bone fragments he said surgery was not recommended as it usually didn’t yield good results. He then told me that the bones may not union (freaked me out), but that many people live with non unions and have no problems. I guess you, Hans, are a good testiment to that. I told him the sling was driving me nuts and he, after testing my mobility and finding it was really good, told me I could chuck it. So I did.
     The following week, just this past Thursday, I visited the physical therapist and he said to use the sling. That the best chance I had of getting the fracture to union was to keep the bones as immobile as possible. And, of course, he gave me some simple exercises to help ensure my shoulder doesn’t “freeze.”
     I am going nuts not being able to bike. And the thought of a non union is still freaking me out. And, perhaps more than anything, is not knowing how the dang thing should “feel” so as to know if it’s healing well or not.
     So here are my questions:
     1. For those of you that experienced a union, could you feel it unionizing? In other words, did the bones move around and then, suddenly, one day they didn’t? Did you observe any gradually changes as it healed or did it just happen for you without your attention? Did it move around still at week three, or was it already still?
     I am particularly curious about this because I would swear that I had a fragment that floated forward during my first 10 days and would cause pain in the forward part of my shoulder, right at the shoulder joint. I could feel something hard just under the skin. So I extended my arm slowly straight out from body creating a 90 degree angle and just that simple action would move what ever it was back somewhere. This happened twice and has not happened since so I’m hopeful that what ever it was is okay.
     I can’t tell what the main bone should or should not feel like and it’s driving me crazy. Am I over thinking this? Is it too soon at three weeks to tell? (FYI, I am 41.)
     2. My bone was consistently “tenting” my skin so after week two, with the swelling gone and feeling pretty good, I decided to put my bra strap back over my shoulder thinking that maybe that would be a good thing: 1) it would certainly help stablize the bone and 2) potentially keep it closer to the distal end so that they could union. Have any of you ladies done something similar, or know if this is a good/bad idea?
     To all who, like me, are in the process of healing… chin up, and think happy thoughts of returning to doing what you love.
     Cheers,
     Amber

205. Josh Says:
     September 19th, 2005 at 10:41 am

     Good news from the x-ray today today (18 days since the fracture). I had posted before and am a 38 year old male with a fracture on the distal third. The x-ray today showed much better horizontal alignment between main collarbone and the fragment attached to the shoulder than there was 12 days ago, and the doc said if it heals in this position I should be fine. So still some possible pitfalls, but it looks good.
     Amber, it sounds like your fracture may be similar to mine. You must have a high pain tolerance ’cause I took the vicodins about 5 days and I only had bruises and abrasions other than the fracture, not nearly the other injuries you did! My docs similar said the surgery would be complicated by the fact that there were multiple fragments, but left open immediate surgery as an option for me to decide.
     I’m not sure if the bones are ‘uniting’ but I did notice that Friday when I clapped my hands I felt a bit of ‘popping’ in the shoulder but now I don’t. The bump on my shoulder is definitely still there, but it seems like its lower than it used to be.
     Also since the first x-ray I’ve been wearing a figure eight brace pretty much non-stop other than in the shower. I think the theory is not so much that it’s pushing the main collarbone down, but keeping the distal fragment up.
     I have another x-ray in 10 days, and I’ve been cleared to start running again (yay!).
     Everyone keep the faith, and good luck.
     Josh

206. Hans Says:
     September 19th, 2005 at 5:24 pm

     Amber – Ah, Mt Tam! I’ve left some of my own skin on that mountain. But nothing as bad as what you describe. Ouch!
     As for your questions, I can answer the first but not the second. I’m not yet to the point of wearing a “bro” (Seinfeld reference).
     There have been a few people here that have commented about noticing a change from movement to no movement. As if the bones out-of-the-blue became connected. I noticed something similar but it occurred over about three days.
     Btw, if you haven’t looked at the training plan I used to maintain my fitness while off the bike, check it out. The link “Broken Clavicle No More” is near the top of the page.
     Good luck and heal fast. Oh, and when you are back riding the bike and spot a Sycip rider in the bay area, it might be me so give a holler.

207. Ryan Says:
     September 21st, 2005 at 3:05 am

     Yea guys ,
     This Clavicle business is getting old. I broke mine a month and a half ago skateboarding. Never went back to the doctor cause they already want 1000 bucks from me and im poorer than dirt. I am aware this is probably a big mistake. Well to make matters worse i was jumped walking home from a local bar and along with a black eye, I recieved a freshly rebroken clavicle. Its been two week since then and im feeling a bit better. I can move my arm in every direction with little pain but i have a huge bump. when i push down on it i can feel it giving way a little bit telling me its still broken. Sure hope it heals cause i cant get surgery, its not an option without insurance. Well , wish me luck as i do all of U. Il give it 2 more months before i decide to blow my brains out. Insurance is a must.Lesson learned

208. Amber Says:
     September 21st, 2005 at 7:54 am

     Josh, I don’t know about the “high pain tolerance”, I think I just got lucky. But thanks for sharing the additional information regarding your healing process.
     Hans, bit relieved to hear that you’re not into wearing “bros”. ;0) Thanks for the additional/restated info and that’s right, I had forgotten you posted your fitness program. I’ll have to check with my rib doctor and see what she thinks. Hopefully, I’m at a stage where the rib won’t be a problem and I can follow it.
     And I will definitely keep my eyes peeled for a Sycip rider and give ‘em a holler. :0)
     Ryan, I hope you are in no way serious about blowing your brains out. No insurance is, for sure, no fun. I am looking for work, having moved here just a couple months ago, and obtained coverage just to cover something catastrophic. My emergency room visit will be mostly covered but all my follow up appointments are going to be directly out of my pocket. So I feel your pain. Have you spoken with any Doctor’s office directly about your situation? Perhaps you could get treatment and they’ll allow you to have a payment plan to pay it back? Also, they may be aware of some kind of assistance you can receive to help you through this situation. Now’s the time to act and see a Doctor. It could make all the difference is how you mend and feel two months from now. At the very least get yourself a sling and keep the arm immoble.
     To all still in recovery… let us mend well, and mend fast!

209. Tracie Says:
     September 22nd, 2005 at 1:43 pm

     Here’s a positive update – first good news i’ve had in the nearly 14 weeks since my dirt biking accident. Saw the orthopaedic surgeon today and he told me at last, to TURF THE SLING! I’d stopped wearing it earlier on, but my doctor told me (she was wrong) to put it back on. My bones are displaced but he thinks there’s going to be a union (slow going probably due to my age – 46- and likely gender – female) and said it is a good thing that the bones are overlapping – a stronger clavicle will result. I’ve got frozen shoulder. That’s why my pain has been awful. Here’s some advice (from my personal experience) that I think is critical. Make sure you get the arm out of the sling whenever it starts to heal, get moving it – but obviously avoid impact, heavy lifting etc – because frozen shoulder really sucks. I’ve got an appt in 6 weeks to check out the bone growth. For now, it looks like surgery isn’t in the picture, and i’ve been given a green light to get moving again. No biking yet, no canoeing, and aerobics isn’t even a good idea, but I may be able to ski in a few months. He even said I can sleep on my side (the non broken one). Oh, and one more thing he told me – which I had originally been doing – listen to your body… do what the pain allows you to do. There’s a teensy light at the end of my tunnel! skiing!! and yeah, I’m Canadian – skiing is my sanity in the winter time.
     Amber – re: can you feel the bone when there’s a union? While my bones haven’t connected yet (though there is some growth) I too felt weird touching the bone – what’s it supposed to feel like? is it moving? Well, mine does move around, but the guy today told me that the clavicle is solid, despite the jutting up bones (overlap) It feels worse than it is, in other words. It moves when i move, even when I sneeze, but that’s okay if the bone is growing back fibrous tissue that’s holding it together. Because I’m fit,extremely active,(excuse me – USED to be) have a healthy diet etc. I had thought my bones would be healed after 6 weeks or so, but he said it’s quite normal for healing to be this slow when you’re over 40… so don’t get freaked out if they’re not healing as fast as you expect them to.

210. Amber Says:
     September 22nd, 2005 at 3:51 pm

     Hey, Tracie! After reading so much about your woes I am so happy for you; I’m glad you’re at last hearing some positive news! And thanks so much for the words of encouragement. I think part of my freaking out is not being able to *do* anything. I ride almost everyday. Or, I guess I should say, used to ride almost everyday. Anyway, there seem to have been changes over the course of this week and, if I’m not mistaken (and please, please, I hope I’m not), they’re changes for the better.
     I think your comment about chucking the sling is interesting. My doctor said I could two weeks ago (just 10 days after the crash) but my PT said I shouldn’t. So I’ve been wearing it almost all the time. There are occassions, however, when the muscles in my arm and shoulder ache so badly. I mean, they really hurt. And the only way to relieve them is to take the sling off and move my arm around more than my PT recommended.
     So I’m trying to strike a balance between “immobile” and using it. And to do exactly what you said, “listen to my body.”
     The thing I’m finding hardest to figure out is how to relieve the tension in my back. It’s like the muscles on the right side are trying way too hard to compensate for what’s happening on the left side. And my back in the morning is so sore from spending too much time sleeping flat on it. But I digress…
     My next check point is scheduled next week with the PT. I have two more weeks after that before I get x-rays and the first real official word of where I stand and how much longer I’ll have to wait before I can do anything but walk… and type. :0)
     Man, it seems like forever.
     Thanks again for your advice and interest, and for sharing your well deserved good news! You go, girl!

211. Terry Says:
     September 23rd, 2005 at 7:59 am

     Its been 3 weeks since not wearing any type of support and I am now battling frozen shoulder. I still can’t raise my arm pass shoulder level but physio twice a week and daily workouts are beefing up my anorexic shoulder and giving me more strength/movement. The pain of getting rid of frozen shoulder is almost as worse as the collarbone break. But at least I can run and get some exercise which helps a lot mentally. My advice would be to ditch the sling as soon as possible which would help prevent frozen shoulder. The light is getting wider at the end of the long tunnel. Too bad it was such a warm/sunny summer here and now its over

212. Tracie Says:
     September 23rd, 2005 at 5:52 pm

     Amber – it’s bizarre that I feel like (not that I ever wanted to be) a real ‘pro’ at this stuff by now. Can’t believe it will have been 14 weeks tomorrow, since my break. It sounds to me like you’re doing exactly the right thing by listening to your body. Frozen shoulder really does hurt as much as (Terry!) if not more than the break. Don’t get it!If it’s any consolation, even though walking was all I could do back in early August, a trip to Colorado, Utah, Arizona – hiking around Arches Nat’l Park etc- was a huge lift for my spirits. I’m almost never still and go through life at breakneck speed, so I’ve attempted to get into a kind of ‘zen’ frame of mind (as if…aaaaaaaaaarrrggh!! I’m about as far from ‘zen’ as you could find) and slow everything down for awhile. It IS really hard keeping still, but a friend of mine died of cancer at 39 – 3 kids – and another woman I know has arthritis so bad in her mid 40s that she’s had almost every joint in her body replaced – oh, and my mom told me today that she’s going blind. Temporary pain is tolerable (provided it remains temporary) right? I found that fast walking – long walks – we have lots of nice trails in the city where I live along the river etc. – was great and kept the initial depression at bay. Hey, some people never do more than walk. We’ve got our bikes to get back on…and the trails will still be there when we’re healed back into bionic women with our bones 3 times as strong as they were pre-accident (ha!!!!!!) take care..

213. Steve Mentzer Says:
     September 23rd, 2005 at 7:49 pm

     Update. Have not posted since Aug. 20th.(week 4). Am now at week 9 and am back riding and working out at the gym. I still suffer a little stiffness in the morning but I figure it’s my age(49)and the healing process. No frozen shoulder syndrome or nasty lump to report and I attribute that to the figure 8 brace. I really believe it helped heal the bone properly. Hope everyone’s recovery goes the way they would like it to. All for now.
     Steve

214. Blair Guinea Says:
     September 25th, 2005 at 3:53 pm

     Hey Ya’ll [c.f.f. collarbone fracture family]
     Got 1 more week to go before i return 2 work………..i cannot wait !.
     My distal third fracture I am sure is improving daily, although if i try there is afracture of movement between the 2 bones though having said that, it is almost impossible to lift my 45 degree’s which I am sure is a good sign and after a bit of careful work and phyisio ? and of course the soft callus hardening etc
     [being soft there is still a tiny movement}
     .........i cannot wait to get back on my trail bike {maybe 1-2months} . And sure as ya'll say, listen 2 your body, it is the most obvious doctor we have !!!!
     This broken clavicle has / partially is a shit ride and I'll be so glad when I am fit and 110% mobile once again........
     Ah Tracie ?
     Thanks again ya'll [hang in there Ryan]
     Cheers……..Blair

215. Tracie Says:
     September 26th, 2005 at 1:28 pm

     right on Blair! It’s gonna be 120% for me when this is over with!

216. Ryan Says:
     September 27th, 2005 at 1:33 am

     thanks guys for the support,
     im feeling better today than when i first posted. i just discovered that i can do a pushup after all this time. Not bad. I figured the odds were on my side. Nevertheless, this particular injury can get U very depressed. Im sure it sinks in to just about everyone who has experienced a broken clavicle at some point during the healing process. Just hang in there. I know im not done with my miserable journey, but it is getting easier.
     On a side note, I met a guy who had his clavicle removed yesterday at work. That was a bit of inspiration for me to hang with this painful adventure and not sink into a rut. Oh well. I am just still anxious to be 100% again. Hang in the everyone. just get some nyquil and whisky for the hard nights and wear your figure 8 even when its stinky bleach water rocks

217. Hans Says:
     September 27th, 2005 at 8:36 am

     Wow, I go away on vacation for a little and the stories come pouring in!
     I have a quick comment about frozen joints. My doctor was very clear that while I wore the sling that I should take my arm out of the sling several times a day to move the joints. I was not to move to a point of pain but enough to keep them active.
     Ryan – Yeah, a stinky figure-8 is nice. To keep mine from getting nasty I would wear it into the shower. It was summer so it was even more important keeping it clean.
     Glad to hear from everyone about lots of success recovering.

218. Mike Says:
     September 29th, 2005 at 1:28 pm

     Have not posted since Sept 15/05. I originally broke my left clavicle in a motorcycle accident. The bones were over lapping at mid clavicle. The original doctor in ER and surgeon I seen the following day, said I should have surgery. He said 95% of clavicle breaks can heal on their own, but felt I should have surgery. Problem was I could not get in for approx. 1 week after the accident.
     Well, I decided to return home and see if I could have surgery done in my home town. My home town surgeon at the hospital, looked at my x-ray and prescribed a figure of 8 brace along with a sling, and said let it heal on its own. I went like this for 2 weeks, and decided to call the original surgeon I had seen after the accident. I am now glad I went with the option of surgery, as the muscle was been pinched by the over lapping bones. I was also having lots of muscle spasm’s in my left arm and chest, prior to surgery. Its now been approx 1 1/2 weeks since surgery and I have good movement in my arm and do not were a brace of any kind. I still have to control my urge to use my left arm, or I pay, with lots of ache’s for a couple of days. Just glad I went with the opinion of the first doctor and listened to my body. Hopefully the rest of the healing process goes as well! How long before the ache’s start to subside? I will probably seek physio in another couple of weeks.
     Take care everyone and be patient.

219. Glenn B. Says:
     September 30th, 2005 at 4:21 pm

     I’m 56 and joined this club on Aug. 1st. I was riding back to the lower 48 and dumped my bike at Summitt Lake in the Yukon. I wound up flying back and having my bike shipped back.
     I’ve not done the figure 8 as the doctor I go to seems to think the sling will do the trick. After 9 weeks the shoulder still has a dull ache. I now only wear the sling when I go to bed and that’s mostly so I don’t throw the arm around in my sleep. I go back to the Dr. on Oct 5 and we’ll see how the bone is doing and whether I need surgery or not. I’m hoping for the “not” option.
     I’ve learned a lot from reading the postings on this site and the feeling that one is not alone is a great assurance. Keep the posts going and I’ll keep reading.
     Glenn

220. Dave Says:
     October 3rd, 2005 at 11:28 am

     Just broke mine yesterday racing my dirtbike. Came up the face of a tabletop, got crossrutted and sent my bike sideways 15 ft in the air. When I came to, and realized who I was and where I was at; I knew I broke my collar bone. When i was knocked out; i had Led Zepplin’s “Thats The Way” playing in my head. Here’s a picture, hope it works. Cut and paste.
     http://www.bajamx.com/Track_Facility/Main_Track/gfx2004/a20.jpg
     I’m 31, it sucks. Vicadin* is working ok. Getting up off the couch is painful; my abs are pulling my sternum separating the break. Best thing to do is roll over and get up from the side.
     I’m hoping I’ll be out of this sling in a week or so.

221. Tracie Says:
     October 3rd, 2005 at 1:11 pm

     You’re funny Dave – I guess you can tell your friends ‘I don’t know how to tellya, I can’t play with you no more..’
     I wish I’d broken my collarbone doing a tabletop like that – at least you’ve got a good story. I was thrown off my bike (landing on my collarbone) going through a stupid mud puddle,not even fast.. way cooler how you did it. Put the bike away for awhile – but go out and talk to it from time to time.. I haven’t been able to ride since June 18th – the day of my accident – but I go out and start her up from time to time.
     HEre’s my advice – not that you asked for it but frozen shoulder is nasty. Crank the Zeppelin (in lieu of revving the engine) , take lots of pain killers, do what your body tells you to do, and do not get a frozen shoulder. Take your arm out of the sling and start moving it even just a tiny bit before it freezes up.
     STEAL AWAY NOW…STEAL AWAY… nice and loud !!
     p.s. I’m almost out of the club now. Collarbone is coming along just fine.

222. Terry Says:
     October 3rd, 2005 at 4:19 pm

     I had my final x-ray today and after 11 weeks the collar bone has fully healed. Yay! but now the frozen shoulder problem. The doctor told me that after 12 weeks and you still have trouble moving your shoulder then it could last up to a year before the shoulder “thaws” out. He advise to be aggressive with early treatments and bear thru the pain.
     Now i need to find a Frozen Shoulder newsgroup
     Had my physio guy beef up the treatment today and could feel the shoulder joint popping as he tried straightening my arm over my head…and man was it painful.
     Tracie – found some good frozen shoulder exercises at http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/2000/09_00/pa_sandor.htm
     The pendulum and table crawl are the best. Could feel the shoulder joint cracking and popping with the table crawl. A painful and strange feeling but at least the joint is moving.
     Listen to Hans and Tracie…keep the shoulder joint mobile.

223. Cheryl Kennard Says:
     October 4th, 2005 at 7:42 am

     Hi, my name is Squirrel. I broke my collar bone in 2 places, was riding with my boyfriend on a quad in Secunda in SA on the 23rd Sep 2005. We were doing a U turn near a slope wheel must of missed the edge or something. Me wearing a white slippery skirt went flying off, then in his fall he hit me and then the bike came rolling. Lucky my boyfriend Ronald realised and kicked the bike away from falling on us. I get up and felt my whole right side go numb, I mention it to the guys they tell me Im just in shock as we take my helmet off I see the bone sticking out. Went to hospital got a good drug shot in my ass. Everything seemed better as the pain had just shot in and started to subside just after the XRays. The worst was sitting down and then standing up again. Got a sling and went back to where we were staying as we were down 4 a wedding the next day. On monday went to a dr in jhb,just leave and let it grow. Sat 1 Oct I was putting a shirt on and think I stretched a bit too much to get it on as I was in pain again. 1 thing that helps is just to relax in a nice warm hot bath for awhile. Next day I notice that the bone is sticking out more the piece where the bone broke, so this is how I came to find this site today as I was hoping to see if anyone else has had the broken bone poking at the skin, and if it could still heal normally or if they would need to operate. Well made an appointment for tomorrow, so hopefully all will still be ok. Its not that painful just more like some1 is poking a knitting needle from my inside into my skin. The pillow thing for sleeping also did that, having a pillow under my arm, sometimes I’d take arm out the sling. I miss sleeping on my side. It’s amazing what we take for granted like our right arm, u feel absolutely useless not being able to cut your food ect. Take care every1

224. Carleen Says:
     October 4th, 2005 at 8:48 am

     I broke my left clavicle in half, 1″ from the shoulder, 4 weeks ago. I broke my collar bone while crash landing my CR125r dirt bike on a motorcoss track while jumping a table top in 4th gear. My latest xray showed no healing and a separation of 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch. The larger of the bone is hanging below the shorter piece. My ortho provider is terrible. Will this gap fill in? I am 38 year old female, will this slow my healing due to my age.Help I want to ride again.

225. Hans Says:
     October 5th, 2005 at 9:25 am

     Squirrel – Those dang quads! Well, good thing the quad didn’t land on you two. Nothing like insult to injury.
     Your break reminds me of my friend’s break. She crashed in a mountain bike race and broke her collar bone in two places. The middle piece of bone rotated and poked straight up towards the skin. It looked like a finger poking upwards. She had it checked out by several doctors. All said that she would be able to “heal” fine but her bones would always be disconnected. Since she was very active and wanted to continue to compete she elected for surgery. Also, having a disconnected collar bone can cause poor posture.
     I highly recommend you get a couple of doctor opinions. And if you aren’t wearing one, get a figure-8 sling or the ShouldersBack (http://www.shouldersback.net/) support recommended by others here.
     Heal fast.
     Oh, and no more riding a quad in a slippery skirt!

226. Angela Cosby Says:
     October 6th, 2005 at 8:33 am

     I don’t know if this will work from England but I’ll give it a go!
     I broke my clavicle in half on Sunday, 3 days ago, while out running. I WAS training for a race this Sunday so thought I’d better ‘role’ and protect my legs! After sitting in casualty all day came home with a simple sling, appointment to see doctor in a fortnight and instructions to take paracetemol as it is believed that ibuprofen inhibits healing.
     NO one prepared me for the pain, and I am 48 and have given birth to 3 kids. So finding this website saved my life, I thought I was going mad. I now have stronger pain killers from my dr. and am surviving on booze and ice packs.
     Really need to get back to work, I teach and keep hearing about my kids going off the rails. NO-one is prepared to tell me how long I’ll need off. My dog is going mad as he’s used to a 5 mile run everyday. Mind you until I can get underwear on I’m going nowhere! Thanks for the site I no longer feel alone.

227. Ron Says:
     October 9th, 2005 at 10:42 pm

     It has been several months since we communicated. I tried to describe the fact that my clavicle had sheared off and risen above the shoulder with only skin restraining it. You said that you had never heard of so critical an injury. However it has become much worse.
     My surgeon was loath to operate and kept telling me that some people with my condition are able to live many years without surgery. Never did he do full disclosure and tell me that the clavicle could completely disconnect if it were not operated upon.
     That is what has happened. The ligments were keeping the clavicle in its normal place in the chest wall. Then the ligments loosened off and the clavicle is now pressing forward with only the skin restraining it.
     That finally got the surgeon’s attention. Even then he scheduled surgery for 30 days after this crisis occurred. That is a long time to wait for treatment with an emergency!
     Really we are talking about shoulder reconstruction rather than a shoulder operation.The operation will last 2 hours and I get only 1 night in hospital when I would prefer many more since there will be problems of infirmity and pain.
     My surgeon is a good shoulder specialist but even so I am afraid of lasting pain. I already learned after the accident how painful the shoulder can be but then I knew that the shoulder was healing. However there was no bony union.
     I do wish that I pressed harder for surgery in mid-summer, had gone to a private clinic, and paid for it if my surgeon was not able to do surgery within a few weeks then. Of course if I had gone for a consultation to a private clinic I would have been told about the dangers of not operating, something my own surgeon never told me. It is all about prevention being better than cure.
     My surgeon said that he will install a plate in the shoulder. He said the great majority of patients find it irritating and ask to take it out after a few months. However you said that you know of patients who have tolerated a shoulder plate very well.
     Thanks for your advice in the past. Please advise others on just how important it is to get a second opinion from a specialist when a serious clavicle injury occurs. There may be some debate among surgeons about clavicle surgery but there is no doubt that I should have had surgery months ago.
     You can imagine how careful and constricted my life is with my clavicle hanging so loosely against the skin of the chest wall.
     (edit: added additional comments)
     By the way the only reason that I am getting surgery is because the shoulder deteriorated so much. I live in Canada where we have a very poor public health care system. One example of this is that surgeons often give out no printed or clear verbal instructions about post-op care prior to the operation.
     However if the operation is done in a private clinic then the patient receives much printed instructions before the operation. The reason is that the surgeons in the private clinics care about the results since they can be fired if their success rate is not high enough.

228. JLB Says:
     October 10th, 2005 at 4:46 am

     I am posting to let u know my story. I fractured my right clavicle, displaced midshaft clavicle fracture, 5 months ago. I was described to me as a bad break. The ends overlap with a fragment positioned behind. It’s very pointy under the skin.
     Yes, it has taken a long time but the results are surprisingly good. When first presenting at the fracture clinic I was given the decision of surgery or not. I left the decision to my consultant, they are experts. He decided to leave it for 4 weeks and review but radiographs showed no healing. However, the fracture was more stable by this time and I started physiotherapy, shoulder mobilisation. (It has all been progress since. At week 8 a callus could be seen. I could now lift my arm above my head but positions were still painful. I was taking revenge on a stationary bike by now. I started jogging again at week 10. Help my posture, strength and I feel healing significantly.)
     Continue week 4: Also, the sling was putting pressure on the fracture causing concern as the skin looked very sore and thin. This was avoided by replacement with a poly sling. This improved my quality of life. It has one strap to go round your shoulder of choice and another to hold the arm support round your waist. This provided support even when going round bends in the car. The positioning could be adjusted and stability at the fracture site was definitely increased. I think the improved alignment following fracture is due to the success of this sling (http://www.medlockmedical.com/orthopaedics/polysling.htm). I’m not saying this is the best sling just that it worked for me.
     Today, my final appointment, 5 months post injury and new bone can be clearly seen. Since the injury the prominences of bone under my skin have remodelled, rounded. I have been reassured that remodelling will eventually leave only a smooth lump. Has anyone had such a successful remodelling experience with a big break (I appreciate alignment will different to pre injury)?
     I posted a month or so ago concerning my pointy lump. I raised the issues I was experiencing with the stimulation of skin nerves running over the fracture. This has been much less of a problem since and I feel remodelling has helped, as above. I can now wear a backpack again. I have selected a back pack to suit my new anatomy. The strap just avoids the lump being an “S’ shape. Lowe alpine backpacks are particularly good but I brought a berghaus as it suited other needs to. My other issue was the seat belt. This was easily solved with a seat belt shoulder pad. I hope this is of help as it was the little things that were getting me down.
     I wish everyone good luck. Life will be normal again, it just takes time. Make the most of the opportunity to rest. Take care and respect yourself.

229. Hans Says:
     October 10th, 2005 at 8:03 am

     JLB – Good to hear you are healing well. Yes, remodelling (reshaping) of the bone should occur over time. I was comparing collar bone stories with someone the other day that had broken one side five (5!) times independently. He described that bone as looking like links of bratwurst. In his case, each of the lumps have remodelled. In my own experience, my lump has also reduced in size. So it’s possible your lump will improve over time.
     Thanks also for writing about your experience and suggestions.

230. Sam Says:
     October 12th, 2005 at 10:46 pm

     Hey guys… it seems as soon as injury happens off we go to the net… and that is what i have done as well. I broke my left collar bone last sunday ( 10 days ago ) bike riding. What i want to know is what can i take for the pain. I read earlier on about White Willow Extract so i will check this out but what else can i take. I am taking Nurofen capsules and they kinda work but the pain over the last 3 days has been much worse then the first week. Is that commen ?? i suspect as the bone joins stiffness and pain comes with the territory. I wonder if others also had similar experiences. I am off to doctor for x-ray on Monday. Any advice would help.. Thanks for some great info above. Sam.

231. Hans Says:
     October 12th, 2005 at 11:12 pm

     Sam – Ibuprofen or some other over-the-counter pain medication is what is commonly suggested. A doctor might prescribe a stronger medication if the pain is really bad. If your pain is increasing it might be from soft tissue soreness. Some of that can be damage from the accident. Some can be from your muscles compensating for the injury. Be sure you are resting your shoulder enough. Also, make sure your sling or figure-8 sling is adjusted properly. If you can get a gentle shoulder massage that can be very helpful in relieving the muscle tension.

232. Rachel Says:
     October 16th, 2005 at 12:10 am

     MOTHERS WITH BROKEN CLAVICLES – READ HERE
     Great site. I noticed though that there is a lack of people who have kids to look after. I broke my clavicle 3 weeks ago at my 8 year olds birthday party. I was showing the kids (all 24 of them) how to use the inflatable slide we had hired. I RAN down the slide and bounced off onto the ground landed full force on my left shoulder. I knew at that moment I had done something more than bruised it. Anyway, I bravely carried on handing out goody bags until all the little darlings had gone home. My mum and dad took me to the hospital and after an x-ray it was confirmed. The following day I had an appointment at orthopeidic (cant spell, sorry) They basically sent me home with an awful sling which cut into my neck if I had it tight, or when I loosened it, it didnt give any support. After a couple of days of suffering, my mum bought me a sling from the chemist which is easier to adjust and some thick foam which I put under the strap to protect my neck. Much more comfortable. The first week was awful. My hubby goes to work at 7 in the morning, so he had to help me get dressed before he went. Then, I had to get my 8 and 3 year old ready for school and walk them there. Each step I took jarred my arm and the only way I could make it better was by having a folded up scarf under my arm. Anyway, I asked the school if my eldest could have a week off with some schoolwork to do, but they said no! I had everyone offering to help take them to school, but Im not the sort of person that leaves them with other people very often. Anyway, I struggled on by myself and Ive now reached the 3 week stage. My shoulder is still painful, I have been using my hand but being careful not to pick anything heavy up. Im experiencing soreness myself, so Im glad ive just read the entry by sam (above) the only way I can describe it is like when u touch a graze. Ive got a slight lump. Hopefully this means its healing. Im really concerned about getting back to work. Im a care asst and I have a cleaning job too. At the moment, I cant drive, so I cant get to either anyway. Im expecting to be off from the care job for a while yet cause I have to lift people into bed. Does anyone know how long it could be before I can drive? I never used much pain relief cause I cant take ibuprofen cause I get asthma. Anyway, Im going to see the doc again on thursday. Ill let u know how I got on. All u out there with broken clavicles. Spare a thought for all the mothers out there that have had to carry on regardless cause we have kids to look after, and think yourselves lucky that you can just take it easy! lucky you! Thanx for a brilliant website. Rach

233. Bill T Says:
     October 16th, 2005 at 9:41 pm

     WOW, what a wealth of information. Thanks much. I am writing this for my husband since he doesn’t like to type!!
     My 57 year old husband has ridden to work and back on a bicycle for 22 years and has never had an accident until Monday, a driver wouldn’t move over to give him room on the shoulder. He had to take the curb and flew over the handlebars. The rest is history. Broken clavicle. Got back on the bike and rode 3 miles to the hospital. Our daughter is the Technical Supervisor for the Radiology department. Said she’s never seen one that bad. Goes to the Ortho docs tomorrow. Thanks for all of the information. We now know what to expect and what to ask. He can take a lot of pain but the pain is still so bad that he feels like he is going to vomit and/or pass out when he showers or changes his shirt. He is taking pain pills and ibuprofen. Sleeps with a body pillow on the right side (right clavicle break). Which he said really helps. Doc also gave him a sling which he wears all of the time.
     The Doc that saw him Monday said that instead of being misaligned his is vertical to the horizontal bone. He has a large bump. It even hurts him when he eats. He is an electrician by trade and right handed. From what we hear from our doctor and the radiologists is that surgery is usually not suggested for a broken clavicle

234. Squirrel /Cheryl Says:
     October 17th, 2005 at 2:36 am

     Hi Bill got info that u asked about and a little advice for others, I wrote about 2 weeks ago. I went back 2 a doctor and he referred me to a orthopaedic, he took 1 look at me and the xrays and told me what happened. Ends up 1 of the broken pieces had moved and was now vertical and that was the bone poking my skin. He straight away said surgery tomorrow. Now being with out medical aid, I needed to make a choice either go to goverment hospital and wait for how many days and who knows how qualified the doctor would be, or make a plan. My doctor said it needs to be done a.s.a.p as it could poke right through my skin and also before the callous starts growing as then it would be more damage to repair. Made a plan and my company offered to help me with the money and I pay them back. The next day I was admitted to hospital, I was so nervous and scared as its my first time in hospital. The op went better than my doc expected. They put a plate and screws in. The best thing about having the op is that it does heal quicker up to 2-3 weeks I was told and It wont even seem like u broke it. Hope that helps. The next day you are discharged. Get good pain killers after the op, but heres some advice take the pills and not the injection as it works better sure the injection works quicker but as it wears off you feel nausea and it doesn’t last as long as the pills. The only mission after the op is getting up from a lieing down position and then the normal dressing of course. I went off my pain pills a day and a half after my op,as all the pills can make u constipated wich is worse so try to only take pain pills when u really need to. The only pain I really feel now is in my back from having my arm forward and in a sling all the time so started on pills again. One more thing is that u should exercise your arm slowly in differnt positions as far as you can go b4 it hurts too much as u need to move your joint by your shouldr. The reason for this is that the muscle or joint can become lazy and stiffen and can loose its ability of motion wich means you will be spending more money doing physioherapy (sorry cant recall the spelling). Hope this helps every body its info I got from my doctors. Take care

235. Travis Says:
     October 17th, 2005 at 3:12 am

     2 days ago I just broke my right clavicle for the second time in 8 months. I am very frustrated right now because I was just starting to get the motivation I needed to start eating healthy, exercising, and lifiting weights. Last time I broke my clavicle I wasn’t about to put the amount of pressure needed to bench press for 4 months. I can’t bare to wait that long to get back to my normal routine. My break is not as bad as some of the others on here. I still have some function with my right arm, I just can’t raise my arm too far from my body. I just want to know everything I can do to make the healing process any faster. I read someone say they took calcium and boron? Also, not to drink alcohol, which would be tough for me since I am a 22 year old college student, but if it helped the healing process I would do it. I also don’t wear the figure eight because it was uncomfortable and my doctor told me it didn’t help heal the bone any quikcer it was just supposed to make things more comfortable. Is he correct in that statement, or should I wear it? All I wear is the sling and that’s only when I’m waling around outside. Anyways, thanks for any comments. I don’t feel so bad after reading some of your guys stories, talk about perserverance.

236. Renee Says:
     October 17th, 2005 at 10:18 am

     Anyone out there healed up without a lump? I have full mobility back even though lifting over 5 pounds or so can sometimes still be painful so I am trying to be very careful. Crossing my injured arm across to the other side bothers me as well. I fractured and displaced my clavicle at the end of July. My bone fractured and displaced downward unlike most who seem to displace upwards. I have no lump, but would almost like one just so I would know it was healing….so my question is… has anyone made a complete recovery without a lump? Am I healing being that I have regained mobility? Should I be concerned? You can feel where the break is but no lump has formed. I need to be able to snowmobile by January. Should I request another x-ray in the next month or so? I have to pay out of pocket, but want piece of mind. Any thoughts?
     PS. Rachael, I have two very active boys. One 7 year old and one 9 year old. Taking it easy is a complete joke isn’t it? When I first got hurt they were still out of school for the summer, so I had them home with me all day every day for the first month after getting hurt. They did their best in the beginning to help out. They carried laundry up and down the stairs and followed me around with the vacuum cleaner etc. It gets old real quick though – for the husband and the kids. Best of luck.

237. BillT Says:
     October 17th, 2005 at 7:50 pm

     Went to the Ortho today, didn’t take another xray, only got to see the PA, see again in 5 weeks. Does this sound normal? did put me in a figure 8 brace instead of the sling. Hurts more, feels better –if that makes sense.

238. Hans Says:
     October 18th, 2005 at 10:22 pm

     Bill T – Hearing stories like yours gets my blood boiling. Let’s hope that karma catches up with that driver.
     There’s some great comments/feedback from people regarding surgery. I opted not to have surgery since my break didn’t call for it. Others have and have had quick recovery. But there is always a risk of complications from surgery. Make sure to get more than one doctor’s opinion.
     Also, asking for a guess on recovery time will give you all different answers and probably none correct. Every break is unique as is the individual and their ability to recover. Therefore, listen to your doctor and if possible, get a second doctor’s opinion.
     (Just read your second post) Glad to hear you got yourself a figure-8. I wore mine as much as possible, even to bed. If you got one with thin foam pads it might get uncomfortable after a bit. Find some additional foam and use duct tape to make better padding.
     I can only guess that you didn’t get another x-ray because it’s only been a short time since the first x-ray(s). Also, I guess that you or the doctor decided no surgery since you will be waiting 5 weeks to follow up. But, if surgery is still on your mind, I would think you would want to follow up sooner. Everyone says it’s better to have the surgery done sooner.
     ============
     Squirrel – Nice to hear back from you. It sounds like things are looking better. It also sounds like you have a good grasp on the situation. Let us know how things go with the recovery.
     ============
     Travis – A second break within one year? That really sucks. As for your doctor saying the figure-8 doesn’t help, well I personally disagree. It helped me and I know that many others have written about how it helped them recover. One of the benefits of the figure-8 is that it keeps the shoulders immobile and aligned well. This helps the healing process since you limit the movement the broken ends and therefore give them a chance to reconnect. Think about two pieces of wood that you are trying to glue together. If you keep pulling them apart you keep breaking the bond. Do that too much and you might never get them to attach.
     It’s also wise to cut way back on drinking alcohol. It leaches calcium from the bones. Oh, and sodas and caffeine will also do this. Not something you want when you are trying to mend.
     ============
     Renee – Healing without a lump? Yes, that’s possible. But it also means you don’t have a cool lump to brag about when you hang out with the broken collar bone crowd. :’)
     Seriously though, no lump is fine. But to know if you are healing correctly you will need to follow up with your doctor.

239. Rachel Says:
     October 19th, 2005 at 1:58 am

     Hi, its Rachel again
     Just want to say thanx 2 Renee for your words of wisdom. I havent formed a lump either. I was concerned about the fact that it might not be healing. Going to see the doc tomorrow (Thursday) so I’ll let u know what they say.

240. Renee Says:
     October 19th, 2005 at 12:51 pm

     Rachel-
     Just a quick time frame note for you. My ortho. had me in a sling and a figure 8 for the first three weeks. After the third week he had me stop using the sling and released me to drive. I continued to wear the figure 8 until the 8th week. Best of luck Thursday. Let us know what happens.
     Renee
     HANS – You don’t hear it often enough. Thank you for this sight and all you do. I don’t know where we would all be without it and YOU!

241. Leo Says:
     October 20th, 2005 at 8:48 am

     I stumbled upon this site and have found it very interesting to read other people’s stories. I broke my collarbone 7 weeks ago when I was hit by a hockey ball. Thankfully it was a clean break, the two ends of the bone were aligned and I was just put in a sling. Five weeks after the injury I returned to the Fracture Clinic where the Doctor felt the injured area and, happy with how it felt, sent me away with a couple of exercises.
     I’ve not had an x-ray apart from the initial one in A&E – do most of you have a second x-ray? I sometimes think I would like one for my own peace of mind!
     And do others feel physio is important or just to use your own “home” exercises? I will be very grateful for any comments.

242. Hans Says:
     October 20th, 2005 at 9:20 am

     Leo – The need for a second x-ray depends on the individual. If there are still complications then it makes sense. But if the healing process has gone well, the shoulder feels solid, and there’s no pain, then why have an x-ray? I believe it’s better to reduce the amount of radiation in your body.
     The type of exercises you perform for recovery are important. Your own “home” exercises might not work the injured location correctly. Or worse they might inhibit recovery. Follow the adive of your doctor or physical therapist. Luckily, most of the exercises I was prescribed could be done easily at home.

243. Amber Says:
     October 20th, 2005 at 10:07 am

     Hi all, Amber here just checking back in…
     I just got back from the doctors, I’m just shy of 8 weeks since my crash, and had follow up x-rays and all that and… I am psyched! He said it looks like my shoulder is healing well with just minor displacement (which I think happened when someone accidentally bumped me in the shoulder with their backpack). My range of motion is excellent (according to my physical therapist — even made the Drs eyebrows go up which, for him, seems like a lot). He said I could start riding again which, on the one hand I’m very excited about, on the other hand, I don’t want to screw this up. He said the callus is a lot stronger than I think and that a simple tip over wouldn’t hurt it but that I wouldn’t want to do an end-over and land on it (like, duh!). Does anyone else have any advice regarding this, either through personal experience or through their Dr?
     And I second Renee’s comment. Hans, thank you very much for hosting this blog on your site and for your continued comments, interest, and support.
     To all: stay positive, and may you heal well and quickly.

244. Rachel Says:
     October 20th, 2005 at 12:54 pm

     Hello again!
     Got back from hospital today. They signed me off for another 3 weeks. Ive still got to continue wearing my sling until I go back again, but he told me to rotate my shoulder up to 5 times a day to stop it going stiff. I didnt have another x-ray. He said there is no point as the healing wont show up after only 3 weeks cause the bone density is only thin!! I hope thats helped some of u cause I was expecting to be xrayed again too. Apparently at around 6 weeks, I should be feeling a lot better and will have an x-ray then and possibly physio. I just cant wait to be able to drive again!

245. carl Says:
     October 21st, 2005 at 4:33 pm

     Hi,
     Great reading all your stories, I wish I had found this
     site earlier as its full of helpful iniformation.
     Anyway I broke my collar bone about 2 months ago when I fell
     off my bicycle at speed, somewhat the worse for drink!!
     I fell real hard on my shoulder, didn’t even get a chance
     to break the fall with my arm. After I hit the ground I heard
     a click…click which I assumed was two ribs breaking at the back so I knew I had done some damage. I put off going to
     hospital that night as I didn’t fancy going in drunk and
     also facing a long wait on a Saturday night (peak time).
     When I woke up the next day (when the alcohol had worn off)
     I certaintly knew about it, I could barely move the pain from my ribs was aweful, it took me about 20 minutes to get out of bed, the ribs on my right side felt like they were made of broken glass! I had pain all down my right side, hip, ribs and shoulder, it was like I had a stroke down my right side and I was half crippled.
     Anyway I got my father to drive me to A&E where the receptionist asked me a series seemingly pointless questions:- name, address etc…to which I basically answered “Have you got any painkillers!!” (My father supplier the appropiate info, he was pushing me around in a wheel chair at the time such was my mobility). I would add that my ribs felt every bump in the road on the journey in.
     Anyway got some painkillers and had my X-rays which showed
     a break with about a 1/2 cm gap at the outer end of the clavical. Not much sign of broken ribs but apparently they
     are not easy to spot and even if they do there is basically
     nothing that can be done for them (If you like breathing that
     is!!).
     Sent home with more painkilers which were good for the pain
     but no help in the healing process as they allow you to use
     your arm more. Another appointment in 3 days and more X-rays.
     The sling was fairly useless for support, seemed to drag my arm
     out of the socket! Another apointment made for a week later.
     I noticed my shoulder was becoming ‘hunched up’ so I made some
     effort to try and ‘straighten it out’ which was probably a
     mistake as the next X-rays showed the gap to be even bigger,
     about 1 cm. I decided to just let the shoulder do what it wanted to do at this point, the ‘hunching’ was probably the
     bodys attempt to bring the bones togeather.
     I got off the painkillers as soom as I could (after about 5 days) as they don’t aid healing and only serve to allow you
     to disrupt the natural healing process, the pain tells you you
     shouldn’t realy be doing that.
     After about 2.5 weeks the pain from my ribs eased a little,
     enough for me to notice the pain from my shoulder anyway!!
     Things gradually got better from about 3 weeks, did some
     cycling after 4 weeks (easier than carrying shopping on foot).
     6 weeks in and a futher X-ray, zero sign of any new bone in the
     gap, although I don’t think ‘new bone’ shows up anyway.
     The Doc said I could bin the sling at this stage, I had quite
     good movement by now and not much pain but I was still worried
     by the crystal clear 1 cm gap.
     2 months on now and things continue to improve, I can even
     sleep on the ‘bad side’ a little but I have to be careful.
     I should have booked a ‘open appoinitment’ for about this time
     but I didn’t bother, I think it’s basically a way of discharging you but I would like to see a X-ray which shows
     some bone forming in that gap as that is my main worry.
     The Doc said that if it was not healing I would feel pain when
     he pressed on the break however I am not entirely convinced,
     an X-ray with some indication of some new bone formation
     would put my mind at rest.
     My shoulder feels OK most of the time now but I do get some
     discomfort at times with certain movements,I guess I will
     just have to wait and see.
     I don’t know how bones heal but if the bone is going to be
     1 cm longer for some time (or permanently?!) I am bound to
     get some discomfort as the tendons and ligaments will be
     strained.
     I will just have to wait and see, even if it doesn’t heal up
     properly I guess it will be ‘good enough’ especially when
     you consider the alternative of an opertation which had it’s
     own drawbacks (MSRA Anyone?).
     Anyway if its not feeling close to 100% in another month I will
     go and get another X-ray done to get a better idea of what is
     happening, I would expect to see some new bone growth by then.
     I am 41 by the way, and a smoker, I did hear that smokers
     bones don’t heal as well as non-smokers.
     My main worry has always been the size of the gap,and how the
     bones will ‘know’ how to join up.
     I have always had trouble finding the break, there is no ‘lump’
     which some people describe but maybe this is because it is
     at the outer end and hidden by ligaments etc?
     I probably worry to much though, I have broken my arm several
     times before but they are a different kettle of fish.
     I guess I was just expecting too much too soon.

246. Blair Guinea Says:
     October 22nd, 2005 at 1:23 am

     Hey Ya’ll,
     Yeah yeah after physio and 10 weeks of partial agony……..I rode my bike XL250 {bajatractor} very carefully around the front yard. Shit no wheel stands just yet ha ha…………my arm is feeling pretty damn good now, its been such a long depressing painful road.
     Back at work to……..that another mind story in itself !!!!
     Anyways ya’ll Tracie, Hans……….thanks again for all ya detail and help…….it got me through and now I’m out the other side it really is such the best feeling in the world and all that matters is our health and riding dirtbikes.
     Cheers ya’ll n Hang Loose !!!!……Blair

247. Steve Mentzer Says:
     October 22nd, 2005 at 2:57 pm

     Travis, I’m with Hans on the benefits of the figure 8. I wore one 23 hours a day from the first week through week 7. A total of 6 weeks. It’s been 13 weeks since my break and I still avoid sleeping on it but in all other respects have full use and all strength back. My question is when does the bone fully heal? I know age (i’m 50) diet and overall health play a part, but is it like 8 months or a full year? Everyone seems to have a different idea. Travis, good luck with your recovery and as far as weight training goes, be patient.
     Steve

248. David Cherubin Says:
     October 24th, 2005 at 10:41 am

     My name is David and I broke my left clavicle biking about 6 weeks ago, and it has been a miserable 6 weeks. I am 51 yrs. old and I broke my clavicle at midshaft in 2 places and the break is displaced. No bone growth after 6 weeks, and a frozen left shoulder to boot due to following doctor’s orders and not moving my left arm for 5 weeks. I’m now in physical therapy 3x per week to unfreeze the shoulder and then decide on surgery or not. My doctor said that he has seen people resume full activities with non-unions. I want to get the show on the road and have the surgery. Although I am new to biking I want to be able to ride hard, lift weights and in general lead an active lifestyle. Would appreciate thoughts and info. on surgery vs. non-surgery in situations like mine.

249. Hans Says:
     October 24th, 2005 at 11:51 am

     David – Your doctor ordered no movement for 5 weeks? You should find another doctor! A frozen shoulder is worse than a broken clavicle.
     It’s possible to have a non-union that’s stabilized enough for certain activities. Your body can build fibroid tissue that helps to hold the bones. But you will need to follow up with a good orthopedic doctor that understands the needs of an active individual. I hear too many stories from active people that are recommended treatment for someone with a sedentary lifestyle. Let your doctor know exactly the types of activities you want to perform and that they understand those activities.
     I’m a proponent of non-surgery. But others have commented here that having surgery was the better option. Take a look back through the comments on this page and my other collar bone pages (linked at the top) for more feeback.

250. Sarah Says:
     October 24th, 2005 at 6:07 pm

     i am a 13 year old gymnast and cheerleader and i broke my collar bone 2 weeks ago. i cant tell how bad the break was from the xrays but i dont think it was too bad. i have competion in 6 weeks and i am hoping to be able to stunt and tumble.It will be the 8 week mark. I dont know if this is a realistic goal or not. I have been wearing a sling.What should i expect (improvment wise)each week? i just want to be back to normal and be able to do what i love to do!!

251. Hans Says:
     October 24th, 2005 at 9:43 pm

     Sarah – Luckily, at your age you should be able to heal fast. It’s not possible to tell you how quickly you will improve. That depends on each person and their particular injury. But, to give you an idea, I was back riding my bike a month after my break. And a short time later I was strong enough to compete again. So there’s a good chance you will be healthy enough. For now, just take it easy and let it heal. And listen to your doctor but let your doctor know what your goals and timeframe are for competing.
     Good luck!

252. Terri Coleson Says:
     October 25th, 2005 at 7:26 am

     Hi, I’m Terri. I broke my collar bone a week ago when I took a turn too fast at the bottom of a fast hill on my bike. I was tired and trying to get home too fast I guess. HA
     Anyway, I don’t know the medical terms but it is broken in two places with the middle piece sort of floating beneath the two other pieces. I went for an x-ray yesterday and the Dr. said everything is looking good so come back in a month for another x-ray just to make sure it is healing good. Until I read this site, I really didn’t know what I should have asked him. When should I start moving my shoulder around so I won’t get the frozen shoulder I’ve heard about here????? I still have a lot of pain (trying not to use the heavy pain meds during the day) so I don’t think I could do any moving now but when should I start?
     Hans, could you tell us what exercises your PT gave you to do at home? I know you are not a Dr. but it would be nice to have an idea of what kinds of things we need to be doing.
     Like others, I thank you so much for this site. It has helped a lot!
     -Terri

253. Hans Says:
     October 25th, 2005 at 9:52 am

     Terri – It’s important to keep the collar bone immobile as it’s trying to mend. Movement inhibits the healing process. A figure-8 brace works really well to stabilize and support your shoulder.
     But moving your shoulder joint and arm is important. Bending your arm at the elbow and taking it out of the sling occasionally during the day will help to keep the joints from freezing up. How soon you can move the arm and shoulder joint depends on your injury and other factors such as swelling. Always use the pain gauge. If it’s painful then stop. I only slowly began moving my upper arm and shoulder joint a week or so after the break. I never tried to stretch or push it too far. As the swelling and pain reduced I slowly increased my range of motion. But I was very careful not to hunch or move my shoulder so that it moved my collar bone. Again, the figure-8 helped. At first I didn’t do any particular exercises. Only simple range of motion actions. For example, moving my arm away from my body. Later, once my break had reconnected, I began more specific exercises.
     Someone posted a link to a site with standard exercises for a frozen shoulder. Ok, here it again:
     http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/2000/09_00/pa_sandor.htm
     These are good once your collar bone has formed a connection.
     Hope this helps.

254. AnnaKate Says:
     October 25th, 2005 at 3:56 pm

     Hi, I broke mine 4.5 weeks ago, and the images on the x-ray showed the bones to be at different angles and pretty far apart. All the stories of malunions are discouraging, and I will deal with that when it comes. My question is why does my entire arm ache when I am walking after 20 minutes, or stationary cycling after 10 minutes?? I wear a sling, and I try loostening, tightening, taking it off when I am biking…but it still aches??? Is this due to raised heart beat and atrophy…thanks, annakate

255. alan Cook Says:
     October 26th, 2005 at 6:51 am

     hi, broke my shoulder 4 days ago and suffering in a similar fashion to others. is it ok to drop my lower arm out of the sling now and again as long as i sit still and prop my upper arm with a few cussions. also sleeping is a real problem as codine seems to mess up my stomach and cause severe cramps so all have is paracetamol which is pretty ineffective.
     my other concern is this. along with the shoulder break i also tore a muscle which means i wont be able to lift my arm horizontally, not that i could right now in any case. i’m hoping this will heal along with the bone re-jigger, as such. but,if i need surgey to patch up the muscle wont that require immediate physio ?
     thanks so much for this site. beats watching movies etc.

256. Rob Vaughan Says:
     October 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm

     hi im 50 and broke my collor bone power kiting on the 15 oct – damn i should know better at my age !! im suppose to be going diving in egpty on the 1st of dec. anywy a few questions
     1) how much movement you recon i have and will i able to do some diving ?
     2) in the uk the gave me crappy hessan sling which just fall apart. can any one recommend a better trype sling with web site so i can see a picture
     3) when will i able to drive ? i have a gear shift
     thank for the help.
     rob

257. Rachel Says:
     October 27th, 2005 at 12:14 am

     Hey Rob!
     I broke my collarbone 4 weeks ago and Im still not driving. When I went back to orth, they said I have to keep it in a sling for another 3 weeks. I got a sling from a chemist (Wilsons) its much better cause I can now adjust it myself. The sling they gave me at hospital cut into my neck and gave me neck ache, so when I got this one, I also bought some foam and put it under the strap which goes round my neck. After 3 weeks, I wasnt relying on the sling so much, and I found I was holding my arm up myself without realising. I can raise my arm upto my shoulders and out to the side about the same amount. It doesnt hurt now unless I lye on it. Hope that helps
     Rach

258. Cherie Says:
     October 27th, 2005 at 4:40 pm

     What’s worse than having a broken collar bone? Nothing!
     I broke mine back in May from a fall from my horse. I have been mostly pain free since August/September when I stopped going to physical therapy. After a while, I couldn’t help but notice that although I have pain-free range of motion, I still treat it like its broken!! It feels like it has been duct taped together, and my arm is weak. I am uncomfortable wearing a seatbelt, I’m afraid to lift anything very heavy with my left arm, and I still protect when sleeping, walking through crowds, etc.
     So, long story long, I go back to the OS, he xrays it and said I have “questionable delayed union”, so he sent me for an MRI, which I had yesterday. He said the next step will probably be a bone stimulator (Hans have you heard about anyone using them with success?), but I think I know what I’m going to be told next week- surgery. My arm is getting weaker, not stronger. I have strange numbness in my arm, and the break site feels “heavy”.
     My biggest fear when I broke my collar bone, was being told that it would heal on its own, suffer, than find out that I need surgery and start the suffering all over again.
     Glad I kept all my braces.
     F***!,
     Cherie

259. Hans Says:
     October 29th, 2005 at 9:53 am

     Cherie – I have heard good things about bone stimulators. You are lucky if you will be able to use one. I would try that first before trying surgery.
     Oh, your arm might be getting weaker because you aren’t using it. At least, according to what you wrote that sounds like the case. Were you doing strength exercises in physical therapy? Maybe you need to continue with those.
     You should mention the numbness to your doctor. That’s important information. It might be nothing or it might be something such as a nerve being compressed.
     Good luck and let us know if you get to use the bone stimulator.

260. Cherie Says:
     October 31st, 2005 at 10:11 am

     Hans,
     I go in Wednesday to discuss results of MRI. I have been using my arm normally (gym, back to riding, etc), just not able to use at normal strength, or it literally feels like it could snap. My PT was surprised to find that I had questionable union, since the exercises we were doing (and I contined to do) should have stimulated bone growth. I am going to ask OS about a false joint at the union site. It feels like I have a joint there, which would explain lack of pain, yet odd sensation and weakness.

261. Art Ariaz Says:
     November 1st, 2005 at 8:39 am

     Hello all! I broke my clavicle 4 weeks ago playing flag football. I played six years of full contact football with practically no injuries and I decide to play in an intramural college flag football league only to break the middle 1/3 of my left clavicle while diving for a pass. I knew exactly what happened when I hit the ground with the tip of my left shoulder and heard the snap. I got up and rotated my arm around and I could feel the bones knocking and grinding on eachother. It was severe pain. I walked to the sideline and told my buddy to take me to the hospital. He just kinda looked at me puzzled because he didnt know I was injured, no one knew I was injured because I just got up off the ground and calmly walked to the sideline rotating my arm. By the time I convinced him to take me I was feeling light headed and nauseous. When I got to the hospital they immediatly gave me a shot of demerol right in the buttock area. This was a good thing because it took away the pain and made me feel relaxed and kind of happy for a while. The next few days were rough because of the pain. Vicodin was my savior for that first week. The second week was alot better but still a little pain when I would have to go sit in class and listen to lectures all day. The third week was really good I could lift my arm and rotate it practically no pain at all. Now this week I cant even feel the slightest bit of pain. I can lift my arm above my head move my shoulder back and forth and even lift things like a laundry basket. What is concerning me is that I have a huge lump where it was. It is kinda sharp and jagged. Is this normal for it to feel jagged when I touch it. I havent gone to the doctor because there is practically no pain at all and I can move my arm and everything and I wore my figure 8 brace for only 3 weeks. I would like to return to weight lifting as soon as possible but I know it wont be in the near future. If anyone has any advice I would greatly appreciate it. Good luck to all my fellow clavicle fracturers.
     Art

262. Cherie Says:
     November 3rd, 2005 at 7:54 am

     Hans,
     Have you heard of people living with non unions? My MRI report yesterday was inconclusive…OS and radiologist are sending me back now for a CT scan. I had a heart to heart with OS though..asking him what he thinks is going on. I thinks I have a false joint. He said surgery is the only correction…and it is a messy, high risk surgery with a high risk of complications. Basically, if my bone isn’t healing on its own, surgery won’t really help without a bone graft.
     Since I am not in a lot of pain, he is basically suggesting I live with nonunion.
     If I had the option of surgery the first week or so of my injury, I would have gone for it.
     I’m so pissed!

263. Steve S Says:
     November 4th, 2005 at 6:49 pm

     I came across this site today after doing a google search for broken clavicles. I have to say I found most of the stories very informative. Today, Nov 4, 2005, I was unfortunate enough to crash on my motocross bike. Besides the initial pain of the crash and the blacking in and out my body did not hurt to badly until I tried to stand up. While trying to stand up I felt my shoulder just collapse. I sat back down and felt my left clavicle and realized I had broken it. The pain was not real severe and I think my left ankle was actually hurting worse. My buddy made me a sling out of a tie down strap and we headed off to the hospital. After about a thirty-minute drive to the hospital (friend was driving me) and waiting in the waiting room for about 15 minutes I was able to see the doctor. I chose to go to an orthopedic surgeon instead of the emergency room since I figured they were going to refer me to one anyways. They did several X-rays of my left shoulder and of my left ankle and provided me with the good and bad news. Good news was my ankle was not fractured and was only sprain. Bad news was my left clavicle was completely fractured, just shy of being a compound. The surgeon informed me that there was no hope in slinging it to repair it and advised me that surgery would be the only other option since the chance of a non-union is likely. He said that he would make a small incision over the fracture area and retrieve the part of the bone that was just hanging down towards my ribs. He would then re-align them and place a metal plate over the fracture and attach it with screws. After that he said I would have to wait till Monday to have the surgery. He splinted my arm, put a brace on my ankle and gave me a prescription of Oxycodone and I went home.
     My biggest problem right now is just trying to move around. My foot is swollen and I can’t really put any pressure/weight on it to walk. Also since it is on the same side as my shoulder injury, I can’t use a crutch or cane. You don’t realize how much you use your shoulders until it’s broke.
     I do have a couple of questions I was hoping you guys could help with. Have any of you had the surgery and how was it. Also someone mentioned earlier about taking 2000 mg Calcium and 6 mg of Boron during the recovery time. Where do you get pure Boron, all I can find is the Boron (Trivalent Chelate) form, which I heard is not as good.
     Thanks,
     Steve

264. Rob Vaughan Says:
     November 4th, 2005 at 8:45 pm

     3 week – update rob – i am 50. had a 3 week x ray. could see some inprovement from orginal break. doctor advised me to keep sling on for another 3 weeks. bought my own sling which was much better than the rubbish one the nhs gave me. i can now do my own sling and not dependent others. no driving – damn !!!. i asked about fig of 8 splint and said they NEVER RECOMMEND that now. my next x ray is 28th nov (mon) and fly out to egpt on the 1st dec. looks like no diving — sob sob, just hope the sling off by then !! also taking calcium – not sure what it does but no harm. no pain – just bored bored !!!

265. Rob Vaughan Says:
     November 5th, 2005 at 1:40 am

     I’s so bored now started doing blogs

266. denn g Says:
     November 7th, 2005 at 12:15 am

     Hi, I broke my right clavicle 2 weeks ago playing floor hockey, I slammed hard into a concrete wall.
     I just needed a place like this to vent and talk about my injury. Broken collarbone is more common than I thought (245+ replies), WOW.
     I’m in week 3 of healing, sometimes you think it will never get better. I mostly read or watch movies to pass the time but it is boring not being able to play sports.
     I’m 27 and beginning to think I’m not invincable like before my injury. We can feel so strong at one moment and at the next we’re like children, again.
     I don’t usually take my body for granted but the time of my injury I was tired and should not have been playing a competitive sport. Live and learn.
     Next monday I get x-rays, finger crossed, I hope the bone is being knit. The human body is amazing, I will try to treat mine like a temple.
     Thanks Hans & Laura for a place to talk about broken bones.

267. rachel Says:
     November 7th, 2005 at 3:04 pm

     Just a quick progress report. Im now on week 6 of my recovery and all of a sudden last week, I actually noticed my arm felt like it was attached to me again. In fact, I took my sling off, forgot to put it on again and did my ironing without even realising. I go for an x-ray in three days which Im hoping they say I can return to work. Keep your fingers crossed for me and Ill let u know what they say

268. Terri Says:
     November 7th, 2005 at 4:17 pm

     Hi, I’m Terri and just finished week 3 of one armed living. It is really interesting reading everyone’s stories but then again everyone is different so I’m not sure if what I’m doing is OK. OK, I’ll explain myself better. I’m a 41 year old wife and mother. I have two kids (thankfully old enough to do most things on their own) but I still have to clean, laundry, etc. Anyway – My break was pretty bad (I think) broken into 3 pieces. Until now I have worn the figure 8 brace all the time(which I think is the most wonderful invention!) and my sling most of the time. Today I left my sling off and did a lot with my arm. OK not alot compared to normal but more than I have been doing. NOW TO MY QUESTION – as long as things don’t hurt, can I continue using my arm as much as possible? I know I should call and ask the Dr. but you know how it is trying to get a hold of them. Just give me your suggestions. I don’t want to mess anything up but I don’t want to just sit around when I could be doing more. Understand? Anyway, thanks for your help.
     Thanks, Terri

269. josh Says:
     November 7th, 2005 at 5:48 pm

     Progress report – - I’m in week 10, and x-ray last week showed no union yet. Doc said I don’t need to wear the brace anymore and we’ll look again in another month. First few days after the brace came off, the shoulder muscle felt fatigued at times, but that may be from disuse. I’m back to running 45-50 miles / week and the shoulder muscle sometimes feels tired after long runs, but not always and never to the point I have to stop. I feel like the arm is at 90% now, it’s going to be a tough call if the option of surgery comes up again.

270. Rachel Says:
     November 8th, 2005 at 4:56 am

     RE: Terri
     Read your message and Im in the same boat as you as regards to having kids and household chores to do. Ive only just stopped using my sling at 6 weeks. I found the first day my shoulder had a dull ache, but its now 4 days since I last wore it and I actually think its helped to do chores round the house as its kept my shoulder from going stiff. On the other hand, my break isnt as bad as yours, its a clean break and seems to be healing ok, so I came to the conclusion that if it hurts to do something, I wasnt going to do it. Im itching to get back in the car again. I tried to move the gears, but it made my shoulder ache for a while after. I dont know about you, but after all the time it takes to heal, its not worth breaking it again just for the sake of the house being tidy. I hope that helps!

271. Hans Says:
     November 8th, 2005 at 7:30 am

     Art – You describe your lump as sharp and jagged. It’s difficult to compare with others since each is unique and descriptions are subjective. If you aren’t feeling pain that’s a good sign. But, I would recommend a follow-up x-ray to evaluate the break. Especially since you want to begin weight lifting again.
     Cherie – Yes, I am living with a non-union now. That break developed a fibroid connection which holds everything rather well. I have been able to do use it without problems. Evaluate the type of activities you do and discuss them with your doctor. If it turns out you perform activates that would require a fused collar bone then you will need to consider options for fixing it. Weight lifting is one activity for example.
     Steve S – There’s a few comments from people that have had surgery. Nobody has complained of problems. Take a look at the other two pages linked at the top of the page and the comments on them. There might be more information.
     Terri – Yes, if your shoulder does not hurt then slowly begin to use your arm. Rachel is correct in that moving your arm is helps to keep you from getting stiff joints. Just don’t move your arm to the point of causing pain. Also, be aware of the use and forget you are still heeling. No lifting heavy objects for example.
     Josh – I remember that dull shoulder ache. I would use a heating pad and massage the shoulder to help with that. It should go away soon as you use the shoulder more. As for surgery, it really sounds like things are going well as-is. It’s possible to continue with a non-union. I’ve had one and it hasn’t caused me problems.

272. Tracie Says:
     November 8th, 2005 at 1:20 pm

     nearly 5 month update..sigh…I’ll say it one more time. DO NOT GET FROZEN SHOULDER!! Broke the collarbone on June 18th (dirt biking) and just had another x-ray today. Ortho guy said it could take up to a year to heal completely although I can resume normal sports and activities provided I don’t fall and avoid major impact. A bigger problem is that I still have limited mobility of my left arm due to frozen shoulder – I put the sling back on (doctor’s orders back in August) instead of following my own good – it turns out – instincts, which included removing it and exercising. I can ski this winter, provided my frozen shoulder (weak/mobility issues) doesn’t cause me to fall and break the collarbone again. Anyway, my orthopedic surgeon recommended intense and aggressive therapy The physiotherapist said go easy – didn’t want to risk re-breaking it, and my doctor back in August, told me to keep the sling on until the bone was completely healed…ahhhh.. the wisdom of professionals. Failing recovering from physio – for hte frozen shoulder, not the clavicle break – surgery is always an option.. he said..
     as if
     For anyone in the early stages of a broken clavicle, keep it moving, if only in short bursts,because frozen shoulder can last months or years. Incredibly, I still cannot lift my left arm above my head with ease, putting the seatbelt on is a strain, and the left hook I feel like using on the various ‘professionals’ who have all given me conflicting advice, is sadly ineffective. Listen to your instincts.. and get second, third and fourth opinions.

273. Terry Says:
     November 8th, 2005 at 5:45 pm

     Tracie – I feel for you. I had that stupid sling on way too long and developed Frozen Shoulder. When I thought my collarbone could handle the treatment…I gave the green light to my physio guy to be aggressive and it was one of the most painful moments in my life. After 2 months of physio 3 times a week and countless hours of rehab…I can now lift my arm over my head and have 75% mobility. The doctor offered me cortisone shots but I declined. Try to get rid of Frozen Shoulder thru physio as surgery sounds nasty…they put you under so you can’t feel the pain and wrench your arm until its mobile. Unfortunately this force can tear the tissue inside your shoulder and could take months to recover.
     A friend of mine had Frozen Shoulder a few years ago and after many months of aggressive physio she was able to get mobility in her shoulder. Her and I now have a connection and discuss who’s physio was more painful I’m hoping to gain full mobility in the next 4 to 6 weeks.
     I went to a massage therapist after my most painful physio sessions and it helped with the soreness.
     Good luck and you will get better…it just takes time and a lot of work.

274. rachel Says:
     November 10th, 2005 at 12:25 pm

     Hi Everyone, its me again. Well, just been to have my shoulder x-rayed again only to find it has overlapped the other half I broke. Not too happy cause the doc said if its not better within the next few weeks we’ll have to discuss other options (Surgery was mentioned) After I saw the doc, I had a word with somebody in physio, and she said about 90% of these fractures heal this way with no problems afterwards. She put my mind at ease a little more. I can now drive (6 1/2 weeks) and go back to work but only light duties. Got to do exercises 3 times a day and going to physio at the hospital next week, so Ill see what they say then. Good luck everyone

275. Hans Says:
     November 10th, 2005 at 12:35 pm

     Rachel – Having the bones overlapping is better than not touching. That gives them a better chance of fusing together. From your description I highly doubt you need surgery. If the doctor is really pushing for surgery you should go and get another opinion.

276. Tracie Says:
     November 10th, 2005 at 1:47 pm

     Rachel – I have the same thing – overlapping bones which were not originally overlapped and the orthopedic surgeon told me the same thing that Hans says. If they overlap they will eventually be stronger. I mean if you think about it, two bones on top of each other fused together are a lot stronger than two fragile ends joining up together. They don’t look that sexy, but after several months of collarbone recovery, who the hell cares?

277. Hans Says:
     November 10th, 2005 at 2:18 pm

     Tracie – “They don’t look that sexy”… well… it depends on the crowd you are hanging around with. Get a bunch of cyclists together and they just love to show off their “sexy” collarbone bumps! :’)

278. gary Says:
     November 11th, 2005 at 7:04 am

     Hi everyone. I broke my collar bone on the 4th October mountain biking, attempting a drop off which went horribly wrong! I landed on the front wheel and went over the handlebars and landed heavily on my right shoulder. I ended up with a complete break overlapping by about 5mm maybe more. I was given a sling and told to rest. I went back to the hospital last Tuesday after about 5 weeks and the x ray showed that not much healing has happened. The doc told me to take my sling off and use it as normal and to come back in 6 weeks and there was a 50/50 chance I’d need an op. I can now move my arm to just above my shoulder and rotate with no pain but actually feeling the bone with my other hand feels awful! I’m driving now and can operate pretty well apart from the odd twinge of pain and an ache down my arm so I’m hoping it will fuse in the middle although I’ve a concern with the length of the bone as it’s overlapping…even though I have full movement…any thoughts?

279. JLB Says:
     November 12th, 2005 at 6:18 am

     Gary I can relate. I broke mine cycling too. Mine is overlapping about 1.5

280. Pete Says:
     November 12th, 2005 at 12:34 pm

     I’m male, 35 – three weeks ago today I went over my handlebars on a YZ250 at the Silver Lake Sand Dunes in Michigan. The motorcycle landed on me on the way down and I have a broken clavicle. The first week it actually seemed to be healing – pinching soft tissue, and then suddenly the pain stopped. I felt great. I was put in a figure-8 sling at the ER the day it happened, and hadn’t been out of it.
     Then, I am emberassed to say, it separated during sex. POP! Pain came back. I thought “OK, it will join again..”. The second week I had a checkup x-ray and found that the shoulder-side of my clavicle was about 2 inches lower than the sternum side. Doc realized that my figure-8 brace was WAY too loose, so they cranked it down and gave me a whole bottle Soma and sent me home to put a heating pad on it. After another week if there’s no change, Doc says I get referred to an orthopedic surgeon.
     The figure-8 brace freaking HURTS. It doesn’t hurt my shoulders or the break area, but my ARMPITS. It’s digging so deeply into my armpits and GRINDING THEM RAW. I wedged some soft flannel padding in there, but to no avail.
     What options do I have? I can really detect no activity after a few days even with the brace cranked down as much as possible – is it possible that I have a A/C tear as well that is leaving that part of my clavicle hanging? Can I take this stupid brace off at intervals every day to wash and stretch?!
     I am so frustrated and I don’t want to have surgery!
     Any help appreciated.

281. Pete Says:
     November 13th, 2005 at 11:30 am

     Update: I had someone take the figure-8 brace off yesterday after I noticed blood everwhere. Put the sling back on for the night, expecting to go back into the brace after it was washed/etc., and when I woke up this AM the clavicle had popped back up and partially fused. Duh. Figure-8 brace was just to intense in this instance.
     The problem that remains is that I think the shoulder-side of the clavicle needs to go AROUND the stump of clavicle that comes off my chestbone. It has joined to the bottom of the “stump” and is definitely not right. Guess it’s time to suck it up and go to an ortho doc.
     Screw the figure-8 brace!

282. Hans Says:
     November 13th, 2005 at 10:16 pm

     Pete – I hate to say it but it sounds like someone told you the wrong way to use a figure-8. Wearing one should not cause you pain, especially intense pain. And wearing one fitted to the point it causes you to bleed? That’s crazy.
     From reading your first post it sounds like the figure-8 worked fine getting your break stabilized and a connection to form. But then you used your shoulder too soon and broke the connection. Then your doc decided to crank down the figure-8. After that you experienced all the problems. It’s speculation but maybe the doc didn’t adjust the figure-8 correctly.
     The figure-8 is used to assist in stabilizing your shoulder. But it can’t do all the work. The person wearing one must make an effort to keep their shoulder immobile. Over-tightening the figure-8 to compensate for more movement is a bad idea and can lead to problems such as you have described.
     So, don’t trash the figure-8 so soon. Find someone to adjust the figure-8 correctly. It should be tight but not to the point of pain, causes numbness, or loss of blood flow. I wore one and highly recommend one.

283. Raichel Says:
     November 14th, 2005 at 10:58 am

     Hi, I broke my collar bone on Oct. 30th. After a pretty bad fall with my horse, I can’t tell all the details because I was knocked unconscious but long story short(after a million ppl telling me) we were jumping broke the pole broke in half he then tripped over it fell down I was launched off i landed head first my horse did a somersult over me (which we think broke it). Blah blah everyone says I’m glad to be alive, and a lot of people who have similar accidents have died or have been in a coma Also, my good fiend said they all thought I snapped my neck that’s why they were so scared. Personally I don’t think it’s true and this stinks pretty bad. At the ER after rough handling from a nurse and still not coherent, yelling at the Dr. that he was a liar and it wasn’t broke got it put in a sling and told I could back to school on wed. this was sun. thurs. at the latest. Yah that was a lie as I am going on my 3rd week and I still can’t dress myself let alone sit in those chairs for hours. I don’t know how bad my break is( even though I saw the x-rays) and I just went to my 2nd orthopedic the last one I saw on fri. after my break said I would heal fine just leave the sling on, my mom decided to get a 2nd opinion. Well, he put a figure 8 on and said it would take me 2 months to heal, I’m 20. Needless to say it hurt a lil and it still hurts to hold up my arm on my own for an extended period of time. I just hate it I look ugly as it is, before I looked like a pregnant lady with one arm( I couldn’t get my arm through my shirt) Now I look like the hunchback of notre dame with 2 big of lats. I just don’t know what to do, I thought it would be bette by now. The first OS said one day by the 3rd or 4th week I would just wake up and I would feel all better. Nope no not at all, vicodine is still my friend and my mom still has to be too close b/c I still cant do most normal things by myself oh and get up from lying down HA nope. Is there any hope? But anyways I’m sorry for the spastic rambling I just wanted to say it was nice to see other people know what I am feeling like. And it was nice to have a little chuckle.

284. denn Says:
     November 14th, 2005 at 3:55 pm

     Hi peeps
     Check out these exercises for broken collarbones, click the picks to get bigger diagrams.
     http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/sma/sma_brknclav_rex.htm
     DISCLAIMER: Ask your doctor when you can start these exercises, don’t just start doing them on your own accord.
     —-

285. Pete Says:
     November 16th, 2005 at 12:49 pm

     I am happy today. It’s been a few days since I took off the figure-8, and today I went to have another set of x-rays taken. The bones are ALMOST aligned! Very jubilant. Doc says to come back in two weeks for another x-ray, and that I was right for ditching the sling. The strap went right over the break and was pushing the clavicle down and not letting it move. Also, I was prescribed Soma [muscle relaxant] because I am very muscular and they thought that maybe my muscles were fighting correct movement. I was having a lot of spasms, and the Soma settled them down, but the spasms stopped when I took off the figure-8 sling. I just can’t wait until one morning when I will wake up and my arm will feel “joined” solidly again!

286. Pete Says:
     November 17th, 2005 at 12:06 pm

     Raichel, chill out. I joined the “Clavicle Club” on Oct 28 and I was freaking out all last week about it not fusing, etc. I’ve had three sets of xrays done plus the initial crapass one they shot at Lakeshore hospital, and if you were to make an animation out of them [hey, that's a great idea for an animated GIF] you’d see my clavicle slowly moving back together. It’s not fused yet, but as I near week three, I feel the joint getting more solid every morning.
     Our bodies are remarkable, you just have to let it do it’s thing. Go have a look-see at your xrays, I’m sure your doc’s office would be happy to let you look.
     I know it’s frustrating. I keep questioning how I did this to myself in the first place – I should have been more careful dune-jumping at 40 MPH. Now I’m missing out on all the cool things I used to take for granted – had to give up my tix to see Ravi Shankar in Lansing, not being able to ride my bike or run..can’t work in the garage, can’t drive my GTO [stick]! Glad it’s winter. It just snowed for the first time here in MI last night.
     You’re not alone!

287. gary Says:
     November 18th, 2005 at 2:04 am

     Hi everyone again. Thanks for the advice JLB I’ll hold out against surgery as long as I can. However yesterday started having sharp pain where the bone is under the skin as if it’s catching a nerve or something. I’m thinking maybe something has moved as had a cough lately….not the best thing for a broken collar bone! The pain is uncomfortable and quite intense at times but does feel almost superficial, and maybe just part of the bone healing itself. Anyone experienced this?

288. Liza Says:
     November 18th, 2005 at 11:21 am

     Hi read all the great post.
     I joined the club Nov. 7th. not an athlete, just a cool mom running the children’s wagon down the road so they could have joy rides. A little too fast and oversteering by son and mom flipped out backwards and landed in the road hitting my head and I quess my the right shoulder. The hospital put me in an arm sling pain pills and said come back tommorrow.The next doctor said yes bad break new pain med. the other pills made me itch by the way the seconad did also. My break looks like a z strecthed out with the middle broke in two peices. shoulder bone drops 1-2 cm then out to shoulder all this is touching. They made no recommendations for care here’s arm sling go home see you in two weeks. I woke up monday didn’t feel right call nurse said are you moving to much I said very little like they said. I started adding moist heat and took arm out of the sling now after talking with her. I’m off to see new doctor in the big city. He may say let it just heal but if not he’s one of the best surgeons
     Pain just tylenol. I used many homeopathics and vitmins.I can post From the book Smart medicine for a heathly child. Use same protocal on son for his arm last year. heals faster. I still think 8 sling was needed. bot with the drop I may be wrong. It will be nice to have a doctor that actually tells me more than ya you broke it. I KNEW THAT. SECONDS AFTER I DID IT.
     I do hair for a living and I need to hold up my arms.
     I find the most pain comes from the muscle .
     now I get muscle tremors when up and moving.
     I don’t know if I should still use the arm sling I think my arm may be freezing up. It can be hard to move and had to work to get the elbow to move again and I’m very weak.
     Please forgive typos with this new left hand typer.

289. Steve S Says:
     November 20th, 2005 at 2:32 pm

     Well, today is day sixteen after my break on the 4th of November. My ankle is about fully healed, still hurts when I move certain ways. As for my collarbone, the doctor did the surgery on Monday, the 7th of November. They made about a five-inch incision above the clavicle bone, realigned the bone and put a metal plate on top of it, which they attached with six or eight screws. By the 9th of November I did not need the sling anymore and was able to move my arm around somewhat. On November 16th, I went back to the doctor and had a couple of more x-rays done and they removed the staples at the incision site. Doctor said everything looks good and released me for light duty work starting the 21st of November. But since its Thanksgiving week I am going to just take this week off and start light duty on the 28th of November. As of today I can move my arm around fully as long as I keep it under shoulder level. Anything above shoulder level starts to cause a little pain. Doctor said hopefully by mid-December my shoulder should be good enough to return to regular work. Since the accident I have been sleeping in the living room recliner, as I feel most comfortable there sleeping on my back. I have a waterbed in my room and I can say it hurts to lay on with a broken shoulder. I am still wearing the sling while sleeping just because it secures my arm to my side and I don’t risk moving my arm the wrong way and waking up in pain.
     The doctor said within six months the bone should be completely fused and I have the option of removing the steel plates. He said unless they bother me or happen to come lose, there is no need to remove them. Anyone else still have these steel plates in and if so do they bother you?
     Anyways, good luck to everyone.
     Steve

290. Eric West Says:
     November 21st, 2005 at 9:01 am

     Yea, it sucks…. I just broke my right Clavicle last nite in a 4-Wheeler wreck. I was sent in the air 20 feet, and slid/rolled/filped for 180 feet…. So all of Y’alls Information has been helpful…. Thanx.

291. Liza Says:
     November 21st, 2005 at 5:33 pm

     Thanks for up date Steve I’m looking at having surgery.
     Two different docs said best could heal but feathered bones fragments are pushing bone up and the main break are not close. 1st doc said I could wait but When asked if it was him what would he do? Answer Surgery but he can’t do it. said let get 3rd oppion from surgeon he said yes but it my have final say so. Call physical therapist to get his Ideas on to have or not recovery care between the two and he said if he had my break he would have surgery better recovery. If only the dump bones would have not moved into worst position.
     Eric sure feel for you hang in there I’ve read this sites post many time each time get something more,.

292. Jewel Says:
     November 21st, 2005 at 10:39 pm

     PLEASE HELP!
     I have just broken my clavicle (and dislocated my shoulder) this past weekend during a ride. I got the shoulder back in, but the clavicle break was just confirmed today in an X-Ray. Now, I have a decent arm-sling, but I need your help- does anyone know if there is a place I can find a used figure-8-brace? I don’t have health insurance, so getting a brace from the doctor, with another painful bill, is not truly an option. I really don’t know a good place to buy one is, (and I have a small frame- 95 pounds and 5’1″- petite, you could say). Can you recommend a place, or if you have a child’s brace whom you no longer need…?
     Also, my break wasn’t completely through my clavicle, but from the top through the marrow- but the bottom part of the bone, (I’d guess about 15-20% from the X-ray), is still attached at the break. My question is am I going to have a lump, or how big of a lump if I do, (compared to someone with a complete break).
     Finally, going back to the no-insurance thing, aside from the over-the-counter or herbal pain relievers and the additional calcium with boron, what can I do at home to help myself heal faster and better?
     I truly appreciate all your help!!!

293. David Says:
     November 22nd, 2005 at 2:38 pm

     Here’s my follow-up on my Oct 24th posting where I explained that I am a 50-year-old who broke his collarbone on Sept 11th in a biking accident. My break was was pretty serious in that it was in 2 places and displaced. After 5 weeks of waiting for my clavicle to rejoin my patience grew thin with my orthopod who wanted to send me home for another 4 weeks. At that point he said well why don’t you get another opinion from a surgeon who does upper body surgery. It was at that point that I realized that not all orthopods are the same insofar as some specialize in hips/knees and others specialize in clavicles, etc. So my first bit of advice is to choose an orthopod who specializes in clavicles/upper body. When I went to an orthopod who specializes in clavicles, he immediately said that after 2 weeks i should have been moving my arm/shoulder, and now I had a frozen shoulder. He immediately started me on physical therapy to un-freeze the arm. It wasn’t fun but after 2 weeks I started to make progress. But at week 7 the bones were still not joining and I made the decision to have surgery. On week 8 I had surgery which entailed re-aligning the clavile, shaving the 2 main pieces of the clavicle, plating the 3 pieces together, and a bone graft. The bone graft was taking a boring from my iliac at about belt level. This sponge-like matter was basically placed between the bones to encourage bone growth. I am now 2 weeks post-surgery and still sore. I’m not allowed to do any exercise except to move my shoulder in 3 directions to try to keep the shoulder somewhat loose. The clavicle is feeling better and I’m optimistic. Fortunately, I’m an attorney(save the jokes), and work has been the least thing affeceted by my injury. Time will still tell, however, as the bones still have to join to form a good, solid union. I’m glad I had the surgery, as I wasn’t comfortable with the idea of waiting several more months for possible bone growth, and then after 6 or 7 months having to make a decision about surgery or living with a non-union of the clavicle. It’s been a miserable 10 weeks, but hoping that in a few more weeks I’ll be cleared to begin to exercise, and that by the spring I’ll be back on my bike pounding up the hills. Since it’s cold here in the northeast my condition is slightly more bearable right now, but I’m still going crazy with not being able to workout, etc. Hope this is helpful, and let me know if you have any advise for me.

294. Bill T Says:
     November 22nd, 2005 at 8:41 pm

     This is week 6 for me.I’m 58 and broke it when a car ran me off the road on the way home from work — I ride (rode) 7 miles one way every day for the last 20 + years. Went to a doc (#3) that said “if its in the same room it will heal” Well last xray shows it starting to get “sticky” I gues that means healing. I asked to start physical therapy and the ortho doc said wait another 3 weeks. I have been in a figure 8 since day 7 – before that a sling. I still hurt like crazy. Still get up during the night for a couple of tylenol. Still off work. Electrican by trade. Can’t lift my arm at all, haven’t been able to since I broke my clavical. I’ve been to three docs at this point and just hope this is going to heal on its own. Thanks All. What would we do without this support. At least I know I’m not the only one getting the run around or else they are telling me the truth. Who knows. Hans – thanks for the opportunity to vent. I guess I am thankful I am here with my family for this Holiday season. Have a great Thanksgiving all.

295. Roberta Says:
     November 25th, 2005 at 1:09 pm

     Came across this site today. Crashed over my handlebars (road riding) October 30th, when I broke hard to avoid two dirt bikes who appeared suddenly in the midst of our paceline (they hadn’t seen us). Landed on my head, but no loss of consciousness, and only a scratched (not broken) helmet. But broke left clavicle and right wrist, and have compression fractures of spine. Also experience extreme vertigo when I tilt my head. My orthopedist was in the paceline, so I knew right away about the clavicle, and realized the right wrist also hurt and I was screwed. Talk about being no-handed!
     After tons of x-rays at ER, my orthopedist came to set the wrist. ER released me with a figure 8 brace, a magic shot that put me out for first night, and script for codeine-acetaminophen. After 5 days, took that only at night. After another week, down to ibuprofens. X-rayed at doc after week 1 and week 3. Week 3 x-rays didn’t show bone growth in gap. I guess from these accounts, this isn’t that unusual, but it did depress me at the time. Figured I was using left hand too much, since right hand had even less mobility. Pain is down at the break, but if I’m overdoing it, i.e., upright for several hours, the whole shoulder hurts. Have been using left hand to feed myself for two weeks. Will revisit doc in another 3 weeks. He did mention electrical stimulation next if x-rays show no change. Has anyone had positive results from this? BTW, I’m a 54 year old female. Thanks to my hubby for cooking, cleaning, dressing me, becoming my hair stylist, etc. etc. and thanks to my friend for donating her button down shirts from when she broke her clavicle last year skiing.

296. JLB Says:
     November 26th, 2005 at 2:21 am

     Gary, I think I know what you are describing… Its sound very simalar to what I experience. My pain was caused by skin nerves running over the fracture site being over sensitive. If I ran my fingers over the fracture site and moved the skin side to side, over the fracture site, the pain was sharp in nature. It took quite some time for this to settle and wear a backpack or a non padded seat belt. The nerves have settled with time. I also had some strange pains from time to time even though it was healing. Im not trying to say your fine but I had a simalar sounding experience which has healed.

297. JJ Says:
     November 28th, 2005 at 4:18 pm

     Another one to add to the club.
     First, thanks for the info. I broke mine playing hockey…er that’s ice hockey to my Yankee friends…as if there is another kind.
     I’m on day 6 so lots of time to go. But this isn’t as bad as a shoulder dislocation I had a couple of years ago.
     Like my dislocation, for this injury I’m banking on a 6-8 week recovery time broken down as:
     First week: Move as little as possible.
     Week 2: Keep arm in sling most of the time, but take it out a couple times per day to move arm in non-painful way (i.e bicept curls with no weight. Also make fists, squeeze tight & relax.)
     Week 3: Hopefully sling is totally off. Try to introduce more motion using pain as guide.
     Week 4: More range of motion exercises, if pain levels are low introduce some resistance. Last injury (dislocation) standing in a swimming pool moving my arms around was great exercise. Maybe get a few sessions of Physio as well.
     Week 5+: More of the same. Start skating again.
     Week 6+: Goal is to have equal strength in both shoulders.
     Week 8: If all has gone well back to playing…(I hope!)
     Cheerio!
     JJ

298. rachel Says:
     December 1st, 2005 at 1:31 pm

     Hi All,
     You may remember me from a couple of weeks ago. Well, im on week 10 of recovery now. I must say, feeling much happier about my shoulder. Ive been having physio and Im back to doing everything I did before except for heavy lifting. I still find it uncomfortable sleeping on the side that I injured, but apart from that, Im fine. I didnt think it would ever be right a month or two ago, but for those of you out there that are feeling the same as I did, I hope this keeps your spirits up a bit! I have to climb my fingers up the wall in order to get my arms above my head and build my strength up again, which seems to be working, and ive been given a length of latex to pull! Anyway, Ill sign off now. happy recovering

299. Rob Vaughan Says:
     December 1st, 2005 at 11:38 pm

     Hi all
     51 male – broke kiting
     week 6 since break – x ray number 3
     1) x ray similar to number 2 ie broken ends still showing and a sort of mist around break
     2) little pain onyl when lifting or raising high
     3) dull ache in arm and hand
     4) DOCTOR SAID CAN GET OUT OF SLING !!
     5) But advised no biking for 3 more weeks (not sure why)
     6) Back driving at last.
     7) o yea — they di say that they never recommend a figure of 8 in the UK? not sure if anyone had been given at advise in this country.
     ROB

300. Hans Says:
     December 2nd, 2005 at 12:06 am

     Roberta – If you can get “electrical stimulation” for recovery you are lucky. I’ve heard good results from it. But it’s usually too costly and insurance won’t pay for it.
     =================
     Rob – Yup, it seems that asking doctors about using a figure-8 will give you as many different answers as there are doctors.
     But, I used one and believe it helped me heal quickly. I was back on the bike after a month. Others have also had good luck using one. There are some that have had problems. Most have been issues with fit and comfort. I think that has to partially be due to the cheap design of some of them. The straps and padding on mine were rather cheap and required modification to make it comfortable. A few people have recommended a product similar to a figure-8 that is called ShouldersBack (www.shouldersback.net). I haven’t used it though.
     As for doctors not recommending a figure-8, I have yet to hear a good argument why not to wear one. If someone would find some valid information against wearing one I will gladly post it.
     Until then, I still recommend a figure-8.

301. Dan Says:
     December 5th, 2005 at 7:45 am

     WOW! and I thought I was the only clumbsy one. On Nov 5 2005, I rode my Motorcycle down from Austin to Bastrop, hit gravel that was on asphalt while going about 5-10 mph. The result is that I dropped the bike and crashed into the windshield of the cycle which snapped the clavical driving one piece down to the lung area and the other top portion got wedged into the trapezia muscle in my neck. Bastrop has no ER rooms and I really didnt want the accident on my driving record. So I got a wrecker driver to upright my cruiser and headed to Austin. BTW, the wrecker dude gave me a tip on uprighting the bike cause I couldn’t lift it – turn the handle bars towards the ground which causes the front tire to lift the bike as you bump the seat with your butt.
     Thank God for helmets as that one got toasted too – cost me $300 but looking at it and realizing that the cushion inside was gone and I had no head injury it was worth every penny as a clavical would have been the last of my problems.
     I rode the bike to Austin (35 miles)and my sister told me that Saturday night in Austin – I would be the last person seen given all the stabbings, shooting, wrecks, and crap. I went to a small town ER to get it x-rayed just so I would know what was broken besides the clavical which I already knew was broken because I couldn’t feel the bone off the collar. The Doc said it would eventually heal but I would probably look like Frankenstein as the bones were seperated by an inch and a half.
     I got a sports med orthepedic to look at it (if you are athletic – make sure you find someone who handles sports injuries – best way to find out is to call Sports teams or Universities and ask who the team doc is). On the phone his assistant said that they never see clavicals that need surgery. Yeah, well they did this time and I had surgery 2 days later with a metal plate and 10 screws that look like they came from metal shop. The doc said it would take 45 minutes of surgery but it took him 90 minutes as he had to pull one peice of the clavical out of my neck and the other off my lung. Duhhh, I told him that when I took a deep breath it hurt!
     They did the surgery on an outpatient basis and I went home that afternoon. They gave me Lortab which I took after the local and general started to wear off. I noticed that it made me sleepy and I noticed that the drug builds up so you get knocked out sooner the next day.
     Best place to sleep: on a couch with the bad arm up and 3-4 pillows to elevate your neck so it is horizontal with the spinal cord. Small adjustable pillow under armpit. The couch keeps you from rolling onto the bad side and allows you to sit up more easily.
     Drugs: I took last Lortab 48 hours after surgery and went to using Alleve. BTW, the doc called me up on the weekend to see how I was doing and told me that I could take Tylenol in between the Lortab schedule. Anyway, knowing that injuries can lead to drug addiction, I have always gotten off the hard stuff ASAP. I switched to ALLEVE which is an anti inflamatory and was taking 2 evey 12 hours. A bit strong but I am 49 yrs old, weigh 250 lbs and lift weights (gorilla). I was at work on Tuesday and have only used one hour per week going to the doc.
     2nd best place to sleep: your bed – 5 pillows all over the place so you can feel comfortable. I got a 7 foot roll of stretchable/elastic bandage (like what you see for knees) and tied a knot in it and place it around my waist. Then I wrap my injured arm’s wrist two times and make sure it is as loose as possible to eliminate cutting off circulation to the hand. This immobilizes the arm so I don’t have to wear that damn sling at night. It didn’t do any good as the arm would come out of the sling and be in my face in the morning anyway.
     The stiches are out and I am going back in 2 weeks for the follow up Xray. I am taking the calcium stuff and eating a lot of ice cream. Since I can’t go to the Gym to lift weights or ride my cycle I plan on just getting fat. All I want is to be healed up come spring so I can ride the bike, jet ski’s, and lift weights. I hate watching TV!
     Pains: It seems to evolve from inside injury to skin irritation like you have skin removed from your shoulder and it is open to air – ouchhh. I think they gave me shot in the side of the arm as it feels that way. I am getting an occasional electric like shock under the affected arm’s pec which I am not sure is related to the sling or what. And I have a pain in my chest bone 3 inches below the incision and the skin looks irritated. Maybe this is from the surgical clamps or they broke my ribs fixing me?
     Best advice: The clavical gets very little attention from the medical community if you see your XRAY and the bones are not in line with one another – be concerned as you could end up looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame. 2 doctors told me that and also, it may not be that bad looking at the X-ray but my Doc was surprised to see what he found. This bone does a lot of good things including your posture so you don’t want to screw around waitng to see if it heals on its own.
     Currently, I wear the sling in public so no idiot comes by and slaps my shoulder and I like the support it gives. The doc says i can get out of the sling at home as long as I don’t stress it by lifting anything etc. Also, he mentioned that the metal plate is going to break soon and that he wants it fused before it breaks. I am guessing that he had to hammer the plate to fit my bone and the 10 screws have weakened the plate which looks to be 4 inches long,1/8 inch thick and 1 inch wide. The screws are about 3/4 inch long and go through the bone and plate and in some cases are in muscle tissue. The pain is not that bad it is more irritating than painful.

302. Pete Says:
     December 5th, 2005 at 8:40 am

     ^^^^ Dude, I don’t want to be around you when you break that metal plate. Ugh.
     Pete here again. I’m just starting week 6 and haven’t had my sling on for a few days now. I actually braided my own shoulder-length hair today for work, which is a milestone. I’ve been very fortunate to have the job I do – I’m the grantwriter for the Saginaw Art Museum, so no heavy lifting, and a flexible schedule. I picked up a Micro$oft ergonomic keyboard that helped out a lot.
     I go for my next x-ray checkup this Wednesday. I can tell that it’s still not lined up properly, but it feels pretty solid. My shoulders are level, so that’s a plus.
     This blog thing is a great resource, but there’s like three alone on the Hans Keller site, it would be great if this were reorganized into a searchable message board like phpBBS. I set one up for http://www.bulldogmc.com – it was free to host and create. Just a thought.

303. Hans Says:
     December 5th, 2005 at 12:47 pm

     Dan – Gravel patches on the road are no fun. I’m riding like a baby after it rains and washes the gravel onto the corners. I could just see myself hitting one of those on Hwy 1 and ended up down in the ocean!
     ======================================
     Pete – Good idea about setting up a message board for these pages. I never thought these entries would get the attention they have. I’ll look into it.

304. Larry M Says:
     December 6th, 2005 at 8:22 pm

     I am a 52 yr old male and broke my clavicle on August 24th when I dumped my motorcycle going to fast on a 90 degree curve. Emergency room doc told me to wear a sling for a couple of weeks so I wore it for three weeks but did not use my arm at all for seven weeks. Went to a ortho for a check up and second opinion at week seven because although I had no pain at the break point I could feel movement between the bones and shoulder was starting to freeze. X-rays showed soft bone matter around the break so he said it was going to heal OK. He said I could exercise my sholder and raise my arm up above my head but my shoulder was stiff from lack of movement. At no time did anyone mention physical therapy. I went back last week,(week 14) for what I thought was going to be the last x-ray and start therapy for the stiff shoulder but the x-ray showed very little change and no hardening of the new bone tissue. They gave me an Exogen ulta-sound device to use 20 min. twice a day but did not want me to undergo therapy for the frozen shoulder,until the bone started fusing. I can move my arm straight out and up but not much to the side so I have about 50% movement in the shoulder.How can I keep it from getting more frozen without moving collar bone? Does anyone have any experiance with an ultra-sound bone healing system? They say it has a 91% success rate. Going back in 5 weeks to find out.

305. David Says:
     December 7th, 2005 at 5:40 am

     Larry: I had a somewhat similar experience to you with the frozen shoulder, except I had surgery on my clavicle after week 8. Prior to surgery, from week 5 to week 8, my orthopod wanted me in physical therapy, and it was a great help. My orthopod also wanted me to do some movements of my shoulder in a pool using the resistance and buoancy of the water. After surgery, my surgeon told me I had to stop physical therapy but could go back in the pool once my incisions were completely healed. I’m nearing 5 weeks post-surgery and hoping to get the greenlight to begin light exercise and to return to physical therapy. Good luck.

306. cherie Says:
     December 7th, 2005 at 10:05 am

     Larry,
     I broke my collarbone back in May and was recently diagnosed with non/delayed union. OS gave me a bone stimulator last week, but it electromagnetic, not ultrasound. It must be very effective, I know my inurance company required MRI and/or CT before they would approve it. The manufacturer guarantees refund to my insurance company if I use it as directed and my bone doesn’t heal. It is computerized, so they can tell when I use it (30 minutes a day). It is doing something, since I now have pain at the break site (yay??). I was told I would need to use it for “several months”.
     FYI..for those of you who use aleve, there is evidence that it prevents bone healing (study on broken tibias proved it), and my OS has advised me not to take it.

307. Brie - 19 - NY Says:
     December 19th, 2005 at 7:52 pm

     On October 28th I was shot through my collar bone. I had emergency surgery to remobe the bullet and pins and a plate was put in. Tomorrow I am having it removed. They said it was healing really well. The cast sucked really bad. Glad it’s off. But it wasn’t like this was the first time I have broken something. It wasn’t even my fault this time. I was at my soccer game and someone tries to kill me due to a family vendetta from since before my parents were born. Hmmm….Go figure!

308. Gary Says:
     December 20th, 2005 at 9:28 am

     Hi everyone. Update. I broke my collar bone falling off my mountain bike back in October. Just been to hospital for my appointment and I’ve been told it’s a non-union so I’m off for an operation on the 3rd Jan. They can’t pin it because of the type of break so they’re going to put a plate all the way along held on with screws. Bit annoyed I’ve had to wait all this time to be told that but hey that’s life! I suppose I’ll be joining the one-handed club….again! I’ll keep you posted of my progress and good luck to everyone out there.

309. Donna Says:
     December 27th, 2005 at 3:03 pm

     Hi all, I broke my collar bone on July 3,2005 due to a motorcycle wreck and have been wearing the brace for 5 plus months, and the silly thing still hasn’t healed. The doc said we have waited long enough for it to mend… now it is time to do surgery. Other great news is after 16 years of service (many unpaid hours ) they tell me when I do get released from the Dr. I will be terminated, nice of them huh?
     I see many notes on broken collar bones but none with surgery and no mention of the scars. Although I’m the ripe age of 46 I don’t want to have a massive scar. Is there a site I can go to for scar and other surgery info ? Thanks

310. Hans Says:
     December 28th, 2005 at 11:39 am

     Donna – Of the few shoulders I have seen that have had surgery for a broken collar bone, the scars were not bad. But that’s just my opinion. Heck, I’m a cyclist so I tend to brag about scars! :’)
     I’ve heard that many things can influence a scar’s appearance. The size of the cut, the type of stitch, how well the doctor does the work, the type of skin, etc.. So I would recommend you talk with your doctor about this and ask for more information. Explain your worry about how it will look after it heals.

311. Peter Says:
     December 28th, 2005 at 11:55 am

     Update – injury date: Oct. 28
     Had a checkup xray last week – still shows a ~1 cm gap, but doc says it’s calcified nicely and will heal. I’ve been taking about 1000 mg of Calcium with D a day now for two months. He told me to come back in the spring before my race season to get a green light. I’m a little nervous about that, as I see most others here going in to get screws and plates for about the same thing. I want to see if I can get a copy of my latest xray to show. Am wondering if I should get a referral to a sports injury doc.
     My racing days [MX] are literally over at the ripe age of 35, but I will be racing AMA Vintage Evolution class which sometimes is harder due to the limitations of the machines. I’m wondering if I shouldn’t take a season off from the track altogether and just ride enduro/trail for a season… I already know I won’t be doing much waterskiing next summer. =(
     Oh, and a general warning for those of us in the icy climates – BE CAREFUL ON THE ICE! I slipped on the steps yesterday and cranked my shoulder pretty hard.
     Pete

312. Peter Says:
     December 28th, 2005 at 12:04 pm

     I almost forgot a question I had. Being in Michigan, I always joined Powerhouse Gym in the winter when I couldn’t be outside hurting myself. I have a full range of motion, but I’m not sure what I can get away with for exercise in the way of weight training. I’ve gained almost 20 lbs of blubber since the injury and need to get back on schedule.
     I did order a magnetic bike trainer to use at home with my mountainbike, so I can at least get a decent cardio workout, but what is everyone else doing?

313. Cherie Says:
     December 28th, 2005 at 8:59 pm

     update on bone stimulator for non-union
     I have been using now just short of a month (broke mine in May). Definite improvement! My arm feels stronger! The xray last week showed some improvement, but still a while to go. I am hopeful!
     For those of you facing surgery…I suggest you discuss the stimulator with your dr, as it seems to be a good option. It is not cheap…7k, but my insurance covered it. Interestingly, they are guaranteed to work if used correctly.

314. David Says:
     January 3rd, 2006 at 6:32 am

     Here’s my follow-up to my Oct. 24th and Nov. 22nd postings. It’s now 8 weeks post-surgery and 16 weeks post-accident for me, and I’m back to full activities except for heavy lifting with some range of motion issues that are improving daily. It’s been a long,long,long convalescence but my life has finally returned to normal. Surgery was the right option for me, and I suggest those of you with non-joinder issues have a conversation with your orthopod sooner rather than later. Good luck to evryone and hang-in there especially if things are not progressing as quickly as you would like.

315. Diane Says:
     January 6th, 2006 at 2:40 pm

     This Thanksgiving I was the wishbone and I won and I lost. I’m 50 and this is my 6th week of recovering from my fall off my moped while goin’ around a curve (rassin’ frassin’ gravel) which landed me in the ditch, shoulder first. My clavicle is broken at about the mid-way point. I saw my initial xrays and when compared to the ones at my 6-week visit yesterday, they look pretty similar (to my untrained eye). My break’s gap looks like a canyon to me, but the important part is that the docs said that sometimes the healing doesn’t show up on these earlier xrays.
     I’m so grateful to see your stories, especially those of you who are in your 50′s and older. What I’m gathering is that it’s best for me to be patient and see how my next/3 month visit goes. Thanks for giving me that information. I feel so much better than yesterday when I thought for sure I was facing surgery in a couple months.
     I’ve taken Vicodin since day one, although I’m pretty much only using it at night now. It was totally necessary for me, as I’m not a drinker and the pain was the worst I’d ever experienced. Especially for the first couple of weeks. My doc also advised that Advil/Ibuprofen impedes bone healing, so I don’t use that.
     I was rigged up in a sling for my first 4 weeks. At my 3 week visit I was advised to get my arm out of it a few times a day and lean forward dangling it in small circles to loosen my shoulder. I can see that was a huge blessing, as my shoulder is feeling pretty good. At my 6 week appt. (yesterday) I was advised to begin using my arm as I normally would, unless whatever I’m doing causes pain. So, I’m feeling like a little fledgling bird today.
     Anyway, best of luck to all of us on our healing journeys and thanks so much for this forum!

316. Peggy Says:
     January 6th, 2006 at 5:37 pm

     Glad to have found this forum!!! I broke my left collar bone, distal 1/3rd, three nights ago. I was trying to learn how to play tennis and drove my left shoulder into the court after missing a backhand. I suspected the break and went to a local ER. After Hurricane Katrina ravaged the Gulf Coast, sometimes doctors are hard to find so I painfully drove to another ER that could help. After confirming the break, they gave me what I think is a figure-8 brace. Although the brace gives me support, I can’t reach the adjustments in the back easily. Are there different models of this brace that an individual can adjust without help? Am I supposed to take it off or leave it on? (I re-injured myself trying to get it off.) I received a sling from the doctor 2-days later but it is too big and doesn’t give enough support, so I am only wearing the brace. I was told to come back in 6-weeks. I appreciate all the information at this forum. I know it isn’t a substitute for medical care, but it seems more complete than anything I have received from the medical community except for the X-rays.

317. jim raffa Says:
     January 7th, 2006 at 5:14 pm

     On december 18, 2005 i joined the broken clavical club.I instruct snowboarding at a nice little ski & snowboard center in upstate ny called SWAIN. I was in between lessons so i took a couple of runs taking it easy just switching back and forth between regular and switch when BAM!! I went down so fast i didn`t know what happened except for the snap crackel & pop.For whatever reason i must have caught a edge or a rut going down hard on my left shoulder. X ray confirmed a break.After a few days of the normal aches and pains things seemed to be much better.I stopped taking the vicadin & ibuprofen. I able to have pretty good motion in my arm. It ached a little every now and then.Walking my dogs for a 1/2 hr it would have that fatigued muscle ache a little. Day 18 i went for a 2nd X ray thinking man another week or so i`ll be back riding the way i feel! NOT!! Theres this big ol space between the bone. A completely different position then the first X ray. HOW could i feel this good and it looks worse then the first time. The doctor they assigned to me is from Istanbul, i can hardly understand what he`s saying.he`s telling me not to worry it`ll heal.You don`t need surgury. I told him i`m 58 years old at this rate i might not live long enough for it to heal !!
     I cannot believe with all the modern technoligy there isn`t a way to arthoscopicly incert a screw with a threaded end into the end of each bone so they can be brought closer together and kept better aligned till the healing can start.
     From all these articles i read its easy to see were all athletic and healthy, every break is different so the healing time will vary but it seems like this type of injury takes the longest time.
     Does anyone know if a lacross type shoulder pad would prevent this type of injury from happening ?
     I thank all those who posted notes here. I learned a lot. Everyone get well soon. jim raffa

318. Joe Says:
     January 10th, 2006 at 4:21 pm

     I’m 51 and broke my clavicle back in June (Mt. bike). When the doc first mentioned it might take 3 months before I knew if it was going to heal properly or not, I remember saying, “you’ve GOT to be kidding! You want me to wait 3 months before we decide whether surgery is necessary?!!” I was thinking…why chance it and waste all that time? Lets just do the surgery now. I had broken this clavicle in the same place before and had it pinned, so the concern was I would get a non or partial union. But the idea of having to do a bone graft made me a bit more patient. After 3 months, the x-rays weren’t very promising…they didn’t look much different than x-rays taken 6 weeks previously….and the doc hesistantly brought up the surgery option. But he was really pushing for giving it more time. We decided to wait another 6 weeks and schedule a CAT scan at that time. I wasn’t very optimistic, but I waited this long so why not? I’d been hitting the gym regularly since the break happened, and my strength was slowly coming back, but not like I had hoped. A couple of weeks before going back to have the CAT scan done, I noticed my shoulder was feeling a lot stronger. A good sign, but I was still preparing for the worse on my next appointment. Luckily, the CAT scan showed significantly healing. Apparently, most of the healing was taking place on the bottom and interior parts of the break and regular x-rays weren’t picking this up. I don’t have the traditional bump in the break area, so I suspect I might get not get to 100%, but if I get to 90% or 95% healed, I’ll be happy with that. Now that I know it’s healing, I’ve bumped up my weight training, and I’m almost back to where I was strength-wise prior to the break. So, my recommendation to those who find themselves in wait-n-see mode…hang in there. As mentioned previously, clavicles can be slow to heal at times. If you have doubts about how your healing is coming, see if your physician will schedule you for a CAT scan. It’s a true indication of how the healing process is coming along.

319. Angela Cosby Says:
     January 12th, 2006 at 2:11 am

     Broke my collar bone October 2nd trail running, just landed on my shoulder and it snapped, not another mark on my body, I should have tried to land on more parts of my body and cusioned the blow a bit.
     Thanks for this site it has kept me going, especially duing the really painfiul start! I wish I hadn’t read the last posting though as I go in for surgery today! My surgeon eventually convinced me to have it pinned and plated with a bone graft from my hip as the x-ray shows a non union. I asked about bone stimulators – he said they didnt work, I asked about waiting he said if it hadnt mended by now it never would. Maybe I should have pursuaded him to wait and left it longer, especially as I now have good movement and am back out running, but he seemed very keen to operate. Ah well I am sure it will be worth it in the long run when I have a good strong shoulder and can get back to normal life, sleep on my side again – its cerainly affected my back-, get dressed without pain, wear a pull on sports bra, reach things off the back seat of the car, get the Christmas turkey out of the oven without dropping it.
     I did go into hospital yesterday for the op and got sent home as no-one had ordered my ‘parts’ – so I hope it happens today as I am fed up of being scared!
     I have not had to pay for any of my treatement as I live in England – but the system has been dreadful – each day I have had to phone several times in order to see if I have a bed for the next day.
     I am sure my non union is in part due to getting active too soon, something quite hard not to do when you have three kids, teach in a primary school and are quite active. I’m also told women of 48 don’t heal well either.
     So my advice is to try and keep as still as possible for 2 weeks and just try and catch up on sleep. Will let you know how I get on – it may not even happen again!

320. Hans Says:
     January 12th, 2006 at 10:17 am

     Angela – It really sounds like your doc is narrow minded and focused on surgery. Might be that your doc simply wants something interesting to do. As for the comment about bone stimulators not working, well that contradicts all that I have read and heard from people.
     I don’t know if you got a second opinion, but that’s always and I mean *always* recommended. Don’t trust one doctor’s opinion if they want to cut into you.
     Your comment “I’m also told women of 48 don’t heal well either” is not quite right. Research indicates that women tend to heal slower than men. Also, the older a person is (man or woman), the longer the healing process. That’s why kids that break their clavicles normally get a sling and in a week are back to normal. Oh, and docs sometimes treat adults the same as kids which is so very wrong!
     But, back to your comment about not healing well. It’s possible for older women to heal well. There are just more complications involved.
     Good luck on your healing. Please give us feedback on how things work out.

321. Nigel Says:
     January 13th, 2006 at 3:48 pm

     I just broke my collarbone and have joined the club. You can see a picture of my X-RAY here: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4070/921/640/IMG_9246.jpg
     Conventional treatment is to do nothing and simply put it in a figure 8 strap or a brace. I would love to simply trust in this advice, but when a clavicle break is so bad–I feel as though more can be done such as aligning it or pinning the bone together with a screw or plate. In my research I’ve only found one specialist for collarbone surgeries. His name is Carl Bassamania, has anyone had any experience with him? Any advice from you experienced collarbone breakers is welcome. I broke mine 3 weeks ago, so it is somewhat fresh. While I already have the ability to move my arm above my head-I still see awful discoloration and bruising around my chest region, upper torso, arm, and shoulder region. I am currently using a figure of 8 strap in conjunction with a conventional sling. I wear them daily, and to sleep. From a nutritional perspective I’m drinking tons of skim milk, and using glucosamine as a supllement.
     Thanks,
     Nigel

322. David Says:
     January 17th, 2006 at 6:31 am

     Nigel: I don’t think collarbone surgeries are as rare as you think. I think most orthopods who specialize in the upper body should have experience with such a surgery. Now, whether surgery is the right option for you is another story. Surgery was ultimately the right option for me. See my earlier postings of Oct. 24, Nov. 22 and Jan. 3. Good luck.

323. angela cosby Says:
     January 17th, 2006 at 11:45 am

     I eventually had my surgery on Thursday 12th of Jan.- after breaking my collar bone on October 2nd – there was just non union it wasnt a bad break I think I was just unlucky. I really agree with Hans I am sure my surgeon wanted something interesting to do because I was told several times by the other docs I saw in hospital that sholder surgery was very unusual. Second opinions are not easy to come by in England – if I’d been able to go privately I’d have seen the same surgeon. However here I am now 4 days after surgery typing with two hands and my shoulder feels okay – my hip however where they had to take a bone graft feels really sore. I ‘think’ at the moment I’m glad its all over and I ‘think’ I have done the right thing. I run a series of cross country races for primary school children and I thought I would have to cancel this Saturdays one – but I will be there! Cant wait until I can start running again.

324. Trey Ward Says:
     January 19th, 2006 at 7:28 pm

     I broke my right wrist and my right collar bone on Dec 17 2005 when mt atv flipped over at about 60mph. When I went to the ER in Chattanooga TN they took x rays which showed a hairline crack in my right radius and my right clavicle was snapped in half with a 3 cm overlap. They called the ortho Dr and when he spoke with me he suggested the surgery due to the significance of the break. The next day he put a plate with 6 screws in my right clavicle and I was released from the hospital that evening. For the next 2 weeks the pain in my neck was unbearable. Now 5 weeks after the surgery I will be getting my cast off next week formy wrist and have my shoudler re xrayed. 4 weeks after surgery the dr had me start using my shoulder again. I have not picked up anything heavy but I can use it like before,with just some restriction from where the incision was. He said that he would leave the hardware in me unless it bothered me badly or the screws statring backing out. I am a paid FIrefighter and need full use and strength of my shoulder and I will reccomend if you break your clavicle in half the surgery is the way to go. He said the hardware can be taken out under local anasthesia and be back to work in about a week. Dr Spinalty in Chattanooga TN did a great job!

325. Bill T Says:
     January 19th, 2006 at 7:41 pm

     Hello Again, This is now begining month 4 for me. Ortho says bones are healing nicely? But FROZEN SHOULDER. I have been going to therapy 2X week and exercises at home for the last 6 weeks and still can’t reach the key to turn on the car with my right hand!! Doc offered cortisone or closed manipulation surgery. My therapist says why would you want to do that. I am still off work — savings going fast! — Said I wouldn’t get back to work any sooner. Anyone have any experience. Scheduled for 2/1/06 for the Hospital. Thanks for the advise in advance. PS — I am a 58 years old and was riding my bicylce home from work when I had to take the ditch to avoid the car that wouldn’t move over. Oct 10th was the day!

326. David B Says:
     January 24th, 2006 at 12:46 pm

     Hello again,
     I wrote back in july of last year when I too Had broken my Left Clavicle. It had never joined {non-union) I did have surgery last Thursday and am now going through the same pain I was in 6 months ago. It seems to be doing good other than that my sling that i am expected to wear for like 6 weeks is causing me skin rashes just under my arm pit as well as my forarm. any ideas as how to get rid of the skin rash that it think is due to sweating under the sling would be most appreciated.
     Thanks, David

327. Karen Says:
     January 25th, 2006 at 6:38 pm

     To David B: Dr. Smith’s diaper ointment is the best for skin rashes.
     I just broke my collar bone on Jan 14th and am currently experiencing the joys of wearing the figure 8 sling, but after using a sling the first couple of days I feel the figure 8 is worth it’s weight in gold. I felt immediate relief after it was put on.
     Now just praying there will be no need for surgery.

328. pete Says:
     January 28th, 2006 at 5:58 am

     I broke my collarbone back in august 2005 in a nasty crash during a road race. After the usual treatment of using a figure 8 brace, I wasn’t getting the results I’d hoped for. So at 12 weeks my doctor declaired it a non-union and we opted for surgical repair with a plate and screws (using a graft from my hip). Unfortunatley, three weeks after the surgery, my incision on the shoulder wasn’t healing and in fact was verging on infection even though I was maticulous about keeping it clean and dry. My doc then did a second surgery to clean and drain the wound and sew me back up. I then spent 5 days in the hospital getting IV antibiotics as a precautionary measure as cultures were being grown to check for any bacteria. It’s now been 8 days, and I am home, infection free, and feeling a bit better. I’m FINALLY starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I can’t believe it has been almost 6 months since I was ‘healthy’ and strong on the bike. I’m now planning to compete again this year — maybe in some time trial events before I get back to criteriums and road races. Something about the chance of falling again so soon because of something someone else does makes my butt hurt. So, my advice if you have to have surgery is to talk to your doctor to find out (for his/her practice) what the %age of cases is when the incision encounters healing problems and what course of action (preventative or otherwise) is ordered. Also, be sure to set a goal for after you’re healthy again. It’s important to focus on something beyond the injury. I’ve been planning to complete again in May and that has kept me focused for the duration.

329. denise newman Says:
     February 1st, 2006 at 10:12 pm

     I was still commuting to work by bike into my 7th month of pregnancy, when BAM! i got doored by a kid in his 20′s. i hooked my right arm around his car door and slammed to the street (on a downhill no less) with my left arm. baby was fine after the ambulance ride and ER visit (which were both out of a saturday night live skit, though not really that funny to me). broke my collar bone indeed, very lateral to the shoulder. and sliced my inner elbow open from the door hook which required staples, no fun. one year later now, the clavicle is a non-union. i’m in that small percentage category of lateral breaks, non-union and being female…go figure. couldn’t do surgery then cause i was pregnant, then nursing my wee one. now it’s a year out, i’ve got full mobility, do my yoga no problem, but have to CONSTANTLY modify activities, crack/adjust the shoulder, and can’t hold the babe as long as i’d like to. weighing the pros and cons of surgery at this point is HEAVY on my mind. not sure where to strike out from here, but might follow-up with the suggested doc in Davis, thanks for posting the info. ANY ONE ELSE IN MY SITUATION??

330. Carol Says:
     February 7th, 2006 at 2:22 pm

     I broke my left clavicle in late Sept. ’05 in a horseback riding accident (as well as scapula and a little bone in my neck called a facet — between vertebra). All fractures were in alignment, so was sent home in sling and neck collar with thoracic extension. 10 days later, in followup exam, my collar bone had become displaced. Surgery was best option for me so my left shoulder wouldn’t be forever hanging down. Plate and screws were used to fixate. Now, four months later, I’ve regained most of my range of motion and am working on strength. Here’s the thing that’s bothering me: My plate was affixed on the underside of the bone, with the screws pointing up (towards my head), except for one. That one bulges out and you can see it under my skin. As well, you can see the plate!!! Doc. says it’s not his fault I’m skinny, and he can remove the plate and screws after a yr. from accident. Every web site I find with pictures of fixation show the plate on TOP of the bone, with screws pointed down, which makes me wonder why my doc. did it the opposite way, and if that’s why plate and screws show under skin. Did this happen to any of you?? I feel like frankenstein. It’s always amusing to show people. Anyway, the good news is that it’s all healing.

331. Julie Says:
     February 10th, 2006 at 5:11 am

     I broke my collar bone December 9th. It is now Febuary 10th. I am 28 year old female. I took a fall in the ice holding my three year old son. I pulled him down toward me while we fell to keep his head from hitting the ice. It hit my collar bone instead. He did not even get a bruise. i went to the local ER that night and I was there for about an hour. They did an x-ray and told me it was not broken and I needed to move it. and I could go back to work waiting tables in 3 days. The next morning I was trying to move it like they told me and I heard a grind and a snap. It started hurting even more. Not having insurance and already having been charged 700 bucks for the ER visit I could not afford another trip to the doctor. I called a nurse at a different hospital and she asked me if there was a bump on my clavicle. I said yes. She said that it was broken and that I having moved it right after breaking it (doctors orders) probably broke it the rest of the way. I wore a sling for about 6 weeks. Surfing the internet I quickly knew that she was right and it was broke. I had every symptom of a break and have not been able to go back to work. I can move it to just a little past my shoulder when it is at my side and it hurts to move in front but I can move it just above my shoulder as long as I bend my elbow a little. Driving hurts and putting on a seat belt is hard. I still can’t really lift my son into a grocery cart. I cannot put my arm straight up over my head. The site of the injury doesn’t hurt as much now but my shoulder hurts bad when I move. I have been reading of frozen shoulder on this site. Does this sound like I may have frozen shoulder? I know I should go to the doctor again (certainly not that one!) I however have not been working and I have no way of getting medical insurance. What exercises are they having people do to regain movement? Can most people rotate their arm 360 after this long? Also does anyone have the problem of their shoulder popping when they lift their arm? This site has been great, thank you.

332. Gary (Age 28) Says:
     February 17th, 2006 at 3:35 pm

     Hi Julie, I broke my collar bone in Oct and ended up with a non union, so had an op to put a plate in on the 3rd Jan. So I’ve had experience of recovery after breaking it as well as after the op. When I broke it I wore a sling for 6 weeks and it took me a good few weeks to get anything like 360 deg movement even though I had a non union. Now after around 6 weeks after my op I’m still not 100% but getting there quick. The only exercises I have done is to keep moving my arm just to the point it is painful and then stopping. If you keep doing this the movement will increase gradually. One exercise I have found helpful is to lay on a bench, hold your arms above your head and lower slowly like your goin to give someone a big hug…!and use the weight of them to stretch your muscles, as well as the other way over your head. Don’t know about the shoulder popping but don’t lose spirit….you’ll get there.

333. julie Says:
     February 19th, 2006 at 1:02 pm

     Hi Gary,
     Operation huh? Scary. Well I finally went to the doctor anyway for new x-rays. They said it was broke after all and that it had healed however I tore muscles involved with the rotary cuff as well as separated my shoulder where the clavicle and joint meet. I’m supposed to go to PT to re-gain 100% movement and possibly get an MRI. I found a good site for rotary cuff exercises if anyone else is having problems with muscle atrophy. It is: http://www.webmd.com
     You can follow prompts from that point.
     Good luck getting your movement back and thanks for the advice on exercise

334. Pete Says:
     February 21st, 2006 at 11:50 am

     Motorcycle Pete checking in again. I go back to the dunes April 1, have my final xray/checkup mid-May and am a little nervous. My shoulder hurts quite a bit, but I think it’s just from the muscles not being utilized like normal. I went back to the gym and eventually overdid it chopping wood a few weeks back, but I feel quite strong now, there’s a huge ball of calcium where the break is, but I have the short end of my clavicle (nearest the breastbone) sticking up. It’s gross and doesn’t feel so hot under motorcycle leathers. Doc says it will gradually go away. Great.

335. Lyndsey Says:
     February 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 am

     Hey, just thought I’d pop in and give you an update
     Broke collarbone into several pieces back in April when I fell off my horse. Had surgery 10 days later to fix with plate and screws.
     Had 95% movement back within 8 weeks of surgery and is now around 99%, so as good as it’s going to get.
     When I first had the plate fitted I was told that it wouldn’t need to be removed unless it started hurting or interfering with everyday life – which it has!
     The screws are very prominent under the skin and clothing, straps, etc over it really hurt.
     I have an appointment with the consultant next week, and so hopefully will have it removed.
     Has anyone who has had a plate fitted had it removed afterwards & how was the recovery?

336. Bill T Says:
     February 23rd, 2006 at 3:53 pm

     October 10th, 2005 was when I broke my clavical in a fall off my bicycle. I ended up with Frozen Shoulder. Physical Therapy wasn’t getting anywhere so I did have closed manipulation surgery on Feb.1st. Put me out and broke loose all of the fibroid tissue that wasn’t allowing my shoulder to move. they say you can hear the noise of your muscles tearing loose in the next operating room! Immediatly I looked better. My shoulders leveled out – - I can now get my arm over my head where before I could’t even raise it to shoulder level. I still have some therapy to go through but I am hoping to return to work March 10th if I can get released. That will make it 5 MONTHS! Not near as much pain now. Good luck to the rest of you. PS: Everyone is telling me “at your age” Maybe at 58 it does take longer.

337. Greg Peringuey Says:
     February 24th, 2006 at 12:00 pm

     This site is just amazing! I broke my clavicle 5 days ago by falling off my MTB. Serious pain! I underwent some surgery to implant a titanium plate to align the two broken bones 2 days ago.
     What is incredible for me, is that the 1st post on this site, was made over a year and a half ago! I read this because my wife and I are registered to ride a fantastic cycle race in Cape Town South Africa (see more at http://www.cycletour.co.za) which is magnificent. Problem is it’s in 3 weeks time!
     I realize now, through the comments on these pages, that I will never be ready in time for what would have been my 3rd completion of this particular race, but instead to support my wife who is still going to ride the race, making it her 1st!
     Many many thanks to everyone who has taken the time to post (probably using one hand like me), this has truly been more beneficial than anybody / anything else during my injury time! Oh, and the best part, today is my 30th birthday!

338. Julian Says:
     February 26th, 2006 at 12:55 am

     What an inspiring story! Smashed (literally) my collarbone coming off a snowboard 2 weeks ago. Currently have a plate and 4 screws in my right shoulder. Being 36 I appeciate now I may be in for a slow heal . On the upside glad to see I am not the only one who is desperate to restart training and has crawled back to work too soon. Plate due out in 10 weeks – not looking fowards to going back under the knife, as this means having to start from square one in terms of muscle regen – esp as I already have a problem with the same shoulder dislocating! Ho Hum

339. J B Says:
     February 27th, 2006 at 8:01 pm

     It’s amazing what alcohol and a lifted pick up truck can do to your shoulder! Somehow I manager to trip while getting out of an extended cab and fell straight on my right shoulder. I felt like an ass and got up. I felt a burning sensation when I was standing up and when I got up to full height I tried raising my arm and got an extremely sharp pain for my efforts.
     We go to the hospital and I sit and wait for xrays. The idiots have me try to move my arm and take an xray of my chest. They tell me my arm is ok.
     They try to push painkillers down me but I swat them away and they grumble and say I’ll need it. By now it feels like someone has taken a crack pipe from a junkie and stabbed me in the arm with it. My shoulder kills and so does my collar bone.
     The next day I go to work one handed and think about doing some work. Not a lot can be done with one arm. Now I feel bad for those kids that ride the short bus. Keep in mind the car I drive is a 5 speed and in order to drive it I have to either move my right arm up to the shifter and leave it there. Or when I need to shift into reverse or my arm hurts I shift with my left hand. I probaby look like I’m having a seizure to oncoming motorists.
     3 weeks pass, I call my doctor and get an appointment. It starts to feel better, but it burns constantly and when I leave it in a position for to long it locks up. The doctor says I sprained a muscle. I’ve broken my sternum, ribs, ruptered my spleen and dislocated my knee. I know what broken bones feel like so I tell him. He says do exercises they will help.
     Stupidly I listen to him and try the exercises he tells me. First I try to use the towel behind my back to stretch it. My left arm moves all the way behind me, while my right arm just sits there hoping I’ll stop. Nothing works on it.
     I got fed up and demanded a second opinion and a referral to an orthopedic specialist. Finally they agree and get me set up. I get an xray and wait for the specialist to show up. He makes me take my shirt off and while I take it off he is chuckling. Because my arm doesn’t move above my chest I have to twist like a mexican immigrant trying to wiggle under a border fence. While he finds it ammusing I do not.
     He looks again at the xray and says “does this hurt?” “I say “no” He pulls and twists several more times. No real pain. Then he twists my whole arm and pushes down. I think I saw stars when he did that and I heard a snap. He was inches from getting a good solid donkey punch from me. He twists some more and my arm hurts like someone dumped hot coals on it.
     He let’s go and says “I know what you did”..really is that why you stopped trying to rip my arm out of my socket?
     Somehow when I fell I managed to seperate my shoulder and push my clavicle over 1/2″ below of where it should be. He was very surprised I didn’t break it and said he never saw something like that before. My bone is actually riding underneath the top of the “ball” of my shoulder. It hurts every friggin day and I tried ibruprofen with no success. I can also push up and down on my clavicle and make music, kinda like pushing down on a metal bottle top.
     It’s almost the start of drag racing season and hopefully I won’t have to get an operation.
     The other thing that sucks is trying to sleep. I sleep on my stomach all the time. I try sleeping on my back but in my sleep I actually roll over and go into my normal position. So when I wake up my arm feels about as good as it did when it first happened. It’s been over a month now and I’m just finally starting therapy tomorrow. It’s costing me over $100 out of pocket per visit. Hopefully I get a courtesy reach around everytime I sign the check.

340. Rhys from Tasmania Says:
     March 1st, 2006 at 2:57 pm

     Hi everyone,
     Looks like I have joined a very diverse and interesting crew. I broke my right clavicle 18 days ago while surfing 2 foot shore breaks at my local beach. I got pitched straight into the sandbar. I couldn’t believe I could do so much damage on such small waves. Unfortunately, the shore break was particularly savage that day. I’ve never known such pain. Luckily you can obtain analgesics with codeine here in Australia so I spent my first week very fogged out. I thoroughly recommend trying to weasel the strongest painkillers you can out of your doctor and use them for the first week at least. I noticed a definite improvement by day 12 and by day 15 have gotten rid of the sling and the last of the painkillers. I don’t know if this is such a good idea but my arm was getting very very cramped all the time. It definitely feels better without the sling now but I worry about stressing the still-healing collarbone. I always thought I would do something like this snowboarding which I only took up five years ago. I have been surfing for 35 years and had yet to have an injury – bugger! I’m going to slowly start to build up my fitness again and hope that by week five or six I can start swimming properly. My main question is, will my collarbone the strong enough to go surfing again after 12 weeks. I have tickets to Bali for May 25 and would hate to just sit on the beach.

341. Sandi Says:
     March 2nd, 2006 at 4:44 pm

     I broke my collarbone back in 2001.I was crushed shoulder to shoulder into the warehouse door by a forklift(with no driver)Besides that, I broke rib #s 1,3,4,&5 and also a nerve injury.I was in physical therapy 3.5 years.Those people helped me get to the 150 degree range.Then I worked out on my own and all was going good till 5 months later……………I had awful pain in the collarbone and swelling and within 8 days ALL the range was once again gone.At this time Im waiting to see one last doctor(comp say NO MORE after that).I could write a book on this injury,but…………….I will wait to see if any of you reply to me. Sandi

342. Angela cosby Says:
     March 4th, 2006 at 8:18 am

     Angela again.
     I broke my collar bone 2nd of October. No join so I was operated on on the 12th of January, plate and screws and bone taken from my hip. I took the sling off after two days as it just hurt worse with it on. Went back to work after 12 days, I teach small children with special needs so I had to use my shoulder and arm quite a bit to hold children, etc – but I didn’t lift anything too heavy. Yesterday, seven weeks after the op., I had another xray and at last there is bone growth – went out for a three mile run to celebrate and felt great!
     I don’t have full movement back yet as I can’t get my arm properly up my back but my sugeon says if I stretch more and more each day in a couple of weeks I should have full movement and a strong shoulder. He doesn’t advise I take up rugby or kick boxing – but says anything else should be fine!
     My hip, although it hurt more than my shoulder after the op, now feels fine and only a very small scar. My shoulder feels good and I’ve had no problems carrying a small back pack so far. The scar is about 6 cm long and looking good, I’ve been rubbing Bach Flowers Rescue cream on it and the clavicle looks straight and not bumpy. I’ve even got used to being able to feel the plate and screws beneath my skin. My sugeon won’t discuss taking it out for a year – so I’m going to forget about that for a bit. I’m just so glad that after 5 months I can now get on with life – 30 seconds of carelesness caused so much pain! However I feel really good as it did make me have a bit of a rest and I found out what wonderful friends and family I had.

343. rachael Says:
     March 8th, 2006 at 2:57 am

     hi i broke my collarbone about 12yrs ago. the hospital just let it set in the way it broke..petruding from my chest in such a way that it has become a rather tiresome party trick, where i can fill the gap with Baileys and drink it, from my collarbone with a straw!..much to the amusement of my mates!! Unfortunately, now aged 27 i feel compelled to become a “young lady” where boozing from clavicles is just not the done thing..but joking aside, the way it has set has caused me pain ever since. i cant raise my arm over my head..i cant carry bags of shopping with that arm as it pulls too much and i cant even have people cuddle me that side! my doctor says there is nothing that can be done but ive heard there is an operation where the bone is broken and reset? is this true? and if so what is the procedure called so i could mention it to my not so understanding doctor!! please! from Rachael..Baileys drinking, party trick expert from surrey,England!

344. Chicha Sanders Says:
     March 15th, 2006 at 4:31 pm

     Wow I didn’t know the collarbone is such a popular bone to break. I broke mine March 5th (the day before I was to start a new job)in a bad car accident. My husband was driving and we rolled over black ice, our car spinned in circles 4 times across all lanes of traffic and finally stopped when the car landed into the wall on my side. The impact was horrible and I thought I broke my body, but it was only my collarbone. I only got a splint, vicodin, and Flexril from the doctor. I did order a figure 8 splint online which made me fell much better, but the pain is still there. This is really crappy because it’s hard to do anything with one arm, then when I try to do something with my right hand I fell the pain all the way up my arm. I have a 9 month and 4 year old and I can’t play with them that much. How long does this pain last? Will I ever go back to normal? How many still drove with one arm? When can I start exercising this arm, and what kind of exercises are recommended for thsi type of injury?

345. Skonecki Says:
     March 15th, 2006 at 6:57 pm

     i know how bad it hurts. i broke my right collor bone n im typing with y left.i broke mine riding in a shoping kart n im 15 so ya.lol

346. Hans Says:
     March 16th, 2006 at 6:47 pm

     Chicha – The questions you ask can’t be answered here. Everyone’s injury is unique. Your doctor or physical therapist needs to give you the answers. The good news is that it’s still early in your recovery.
     ___________________________________________________________
     Skonecki – Shopping cart? Yup, I can imagine. I scraped off a large chunk of skin one time doing a shopping cart downhill race.

347. Eric Says:
     March 20th, 2006 at 12:45 pm

     Everyone – I only post this to possibly help other people who broke their collarbone and freaking out. From my days/hours/weeks of obsessing over my broken collarbone, I have concluded they are all different and heal different but one thing for sure is it could always be worse. I have a big bump that my wife named “button” and only I hate it. Everyone else says it’s a good battle wound from MX racing. I’m 8 weeks in starting to feel better.
     My 2 cents = Make a decision! if you don’t want the bump, your gonna have a scar and possible surgery complication. don’t go back and forth like me and drive yourself nuts. Don’t stare in the mirror at it for hours – again, will drive you insane.
     Don’t sit around and get a frozen shoulder. You can do small circles with your arm hanging just to keep some movement. At least this way you remember you still have an arm.
     Your mind can play terrible games on you – keep a solid head and optimistic – worrying only takes more years off your life.
     Believe it or not, some people are born without collarbone’s and are fine. Well, if anything, that’s what I have learned in the past 8 weeks. A few more weeks and I’m back surfing and on my dirtbike. Hey, first major broken bone at 33 – I am more then happy to wait until 66 for my 2nd (knock on wood).

348. kim Says:
     March 24th, 2006 at 6:41 am

     hi, i fell over my bassett hound about a month ago. my collar bone on the left side hurts alot when i wear a seatbelt on that side. i know i need to go to the doctor. But could anyone tell me if they think it sounds like a break on a fracture? it hurts just hangin my arm down as well. and it’s size does not match up with the right side. thanx

349. joe williams Says:
     March 28th, 2006 at 6:33 am

     i did a quick google search on Laura Erker and she’s the real deal – not a fat, middle-aged biker wanna-be like. ..ahem me. but a real biker.
     her story was great and has helped me while i sit and get fatter waiting for my broken collar bone heal.
     thanks Laura, and the rest of you for sharing.
     jw

350. duncan Says:
     April 8th, 2006 at 4:51 pm

     try breaking your collar bone with 300 meters to go after being in a ten man cat 1/2 break for 60 miles. And i am a spinter. I am very disappointed. Sitting at home now watching TV. though I would highly recomend the compex sport muscle stimulator. great muscle work. try riding on trainer 14 days after break.

351. Hans Says:
     April 11th, 2006 at 9:37 am

     Kim – I hope you have had that shoulder checked out by a doctor. You say you know you need to go so just go. Listen to your body, it hurts, you need to have it checked out.
     ———————————————————-
     Duncan – I feel your pain. My first break happened at the start of the last lap of my second criterium that day. I was feeling great and thinking about a top finish.
     Btw – If you want to entertain yourself with cycling videos while you’re injured, check out my helmet cam race videos over in the cycling videos section of the site:
     http://www.hanskellner.com/videos/cycling.html

352. Serina Says:
     April 11th, 2006 at 11:16 am

     I was researching the net for tips on how to ease a broken collarbone when I stumbbled upon this site… I am now on day 6 of breaking my right collarbone…I wish I could have a funny story on how I broke mine, but mine is a bummer. I was fighting with my ex boyfriend when he shoved me down on the ground. The only thing I can really remember is rolling around on the ground screaming. I got up and as best as I could, hobbled inside to his house so I could lie down. At first, he kept telling me it was just dislocated. After about the 5th or 6th time of him tryin to jerk it back into place, I finally screamed at him that it was broke. After I called my mom and told her that I had fallen over a chair, she told me to go on to the hospital.
     After they x-rayed me and said that it was broken, they put me in a figure eight brace and a sling. The dr. prescribed a pain pill which i can not remember, but the stuff doesnt help and it was only 5mg. And since I am only 17, i can’t resort to alcohol. lol… well I could, but I dont want to. The figure eight brace helps, but I think it is too big. It doesnt really seem like it fits me right. I wear my sling all day,every day. The figure eight brace cuts into my skin and it hurts so bad. It is very uncomfortable for me. My mom is suppose to be calling her dr. to set me up an appointment, but I dont know how well it will go because I havent been really good about keepin my arm/collarbone still. I’m ready for it to be over. The pain is a constent thing which doesnt go away. I know I’m only on day 6 but it feels so much longer. If anybody else has some suggestions, please feel free to help me out.

353. Mario Says:
     April 16th, 2006 at 1:41 am

     Hello, I broke my collar bone on March 6, 2006 while skiing. It was the day that I was going to attend a ball in celebration
     of my unit’s return from a one year deployment (I’m in the Army).
     This is what took place. I was going down the hill too fast for my skiing abilities and I took a nasty fall. For the record, there was no alcohol involved in this incident (at least not yet). The reason I pushed my luck was because I was trying not to be out perfomed by my 6 and 8 year old kids. They are good skiing but probably got that from their mother.
     I’m not sure if any of you actually heard your collar bone break but I did; it’a nasty sound. At the time I wasn’t sure of what I had broken so I just lay motionless affraid of being paralyzed. Well, after a few seconds, I managed to sit up and discovered that there was nothing wrong with my neck or spine
     but discovered that there was something wrong with my collar bone because it was deformed. I also realized that there was
     something wrong with my ribs because breathing was extremely painful. The pain was so great that I just didn’t want to move.
     After a couple of minutes I was taken to an emergency room where I sat for a good hour before I was X rayed and an additional hour went by before a doctor took a look at them.
     Well, it turned out that I had fractured my right collar bone, bruised two ribs and hyper extended my left thumb.
     I was given two options at the hospital: 1. Take some serious painkillers through an IV and spend the night under observation
     or 2. take some pills and go back to the hotel. I chose the second option and got a “free” figure eight sling from them.
     I also discovered that the generic pills that they gave me worked well only when taken in conjuction with a Heineken
     Anyway, later on that night, I convinced my wife of getting me into a suit and attend the ball. I only did it because the
     ball meant so much to her. She had spend a lot of money on a formal dress, shoes, nails, etc. Heck, we even paid a close
     friend of ours to travel with us (all expenses paid) and watch our kids while we went to the ball. As you can imagine, I was
     in pain during the ball but the alcohol made it more bearable.
     The first week after the accident was unbearable but by the second week the pain decreased considerably and it dind’t
     bother me as long as I didn’t move my injured arm.
     Well, it’s been around 40 days since it happened and the clavicle hasn’t fused together yet and I’m starting to worry about it. I was told initially by an orthopedic surgeon that the injury would take about 8 weeks to heal completely but then
     (2 weeks ago) I was told that it would take approximately 12 additional weeks to heal. Not what I wanted to hear really but I guess things do happen for a reason. Good luck to all of you.

354. Ian Says:
     April 25th, 2006 at 11:34 am

     Thanks to all for describing their experiences.
     I broke my left CB about 8 months ago after taking a tumble on my bike. My fall was seemingly minor and I wasn’t immediatly sure that I was even REALLY hurt. I rode on in pain and soon ended up seeking a ride to the ER where I was enlightened and advised that I should get some Tylenol/Advil, a sling and come back in a week. I had a simple, commercial sling with velcro that I could cinch tight when desired and it worked well for me. I was comfortable enough after a week to be dismissed from any further medical care.
     The next four days of couch-time helped and I went back to work in a sling after a week off. I dumped the sling for good in about 6 weeks and have been without major pain since.
     I was advised that I should be 100% in 6 months (…because I’m 39) but could resume whatever activity didn’t cause discomfort along the way. I usually cycle daily through the winter on studded tires, etc and did a bit of that when it wasn’t too icy and since March I’ve been riding off-road regularly.
     I’ve got a sharp bump which doesn’t work well with my packs and I still get the occasional ache from the ‘site’ of the break. The geometry of my shoulder is different enough that I occasionally noticed some weird mobility constraints. Good thing I don’t golf I guess. Over time this continues to improve however. I have tested my shoulder a few times when lifting and playing strenuous outdoor sports enough to be confident th